Keith, The US Constitution does NOT extend beyond US soil. Please don't try to use it on foreign soil, they have their own LEGAL document there.
On Apr 24, 9:26 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Good Morning Mark! > > You just answered your own question. > > The twenty eight detainees were not prisoners of war, in the sense of a foot > soldier, as the clause you are referencing is referring to. These > individuals where enhanced interrogation tactics were utilized, (and no, I > do not believe that the enhanced interrogation tactics resulted in torture, > I don't think anyone in good conscience can believe that if they read the > Memoranda) were homicidal murderers intent on killing Americans. > > Further, out of the over nine hundred that were captured and detained, based > on the information that has been released to date, only 28 of them were > exposed to any coercive interrogation tactics in order to obtain > information. The remaining nine hundred plus, were treated no differently > than any other American prisoner in the federal Bureau of Prisons' system, > as can be witnessed at both Baghdad Central Prison and Guantanamo. > > Folks keep forgetting the era also. At the time that these enhanced > interrogation tactics were being utilized, on the twenty eight that are > being referenced, our intelligence departments literally did not know who, > or what we were dealing with, and especially where or when the next wave of > attacks were coming. All Americans were fearful of dirty bombs, chemical > attacks, or planes being flown into our skyscrapers. It wasn't a question > of "if" but a question of "when". Our federal government by the mandate of > the United States Constitution, has a duty to "insure domestic tranquilty, > provide for the common defense, and promote the general welfare..." > > Had the Bush Administration failed to have done as much as they did, we very > well might not be having this converstaion right now. > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:40 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Keith, > > > How is this for Myth ?? > > > QUOTE<<<<No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of > > coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them > > information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to > > answer may not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to any unpleasant > > or disadvantageous treatment of any kind.>>>>>UNQUOTE Part III : > > Captivity #Section I : Beginning of captivity ARTICLE 17 > > > Now we are back to discussing the POW definition. The law is VERY > > specific. NEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > On Apr 23, 8:20 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Waterboarding as it was applied to THE THREE HOMICIDAL MURDERERS THAT > > WERE > > > ATTEMPTING TO KILL YOU was not specifically against any international law > > or > > > treatise that the United States was a signatory. > > > > Waterboarding as we applied it, was not torture! > > > > MoonbatMyths!!!! > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:26 PM, studio <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 22, 10:21 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think a better way of framing your question Studio, is, "That if > > the > > > > > enhanced interrogation technique of waterboarding is 'torture', then > > how > > > > > does one survive the procedure after 183 times?" > > > > > I don't know, let's try it on you to make sure. > > > > > The fact is the US was a International signatory against torture, > > > > which also > > > > includes water boarding. > > > > It was and is against the law, period. > > > > > It's really nice how you conservative moralists love telling everyone > > > > how > > > > moral and effective torture is. > > > > > INTERROGATOR: > > > > Have you been ripping the American people off for the last eight > > > > years? > > > > > BUSH - CHENEY: > > > > No, we were protecting... > > > > > INTERROGATOR: > > > > Fill 'em up boys, they'll tell us what we want to hear even if it > > > > takes 183 times.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
