Jim, How many threads did you copy this article onto anyway?
On May 17, 11:08 pm, Jim Willis <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m just saying; this tortured torture argument is a lot of flummery > foisted as a faux pas targeting those who have dedicated their lives > to protecting us, the people. Cognizant, coherent citizens are engaged > in a debate where they question the methods of safety provided them. > When you think about it, it’s akin to the sperm complaining to the egg > about the condom. > > I’m not buying it, or even renting it by the mile. My personal policy > is pro-torture. I’ve taken it as an article of faith. And trust me; > I’ve given torture a great deal of reflection…after all, I have ex- > wives. > > But, and think about this; we are the lone superpower remaining on > this spinning orb and the best we can do is water sports. As John > Stossel would say, “give me a break”. I long for that ole time > torture. You know; the fire and brimstone, can I haaaaaave an amen, > drawing and quartering, the iron maiden dosee doe. Ah yes, good times. > > For all of you short bussers on the left and you middle of the road > Forrest Gumps, this gets pretty simple. You can even play along at > home. We are at war with a cult like pseudo-religion that has as its > sacrament the rape of children, the rape of women and the rape of > goats; just not in that order. > > How about it, friends, neighbors and countrymen? Think about it; we > are flogging ourselves in some sort of self flagellation because a few > pieces of excrement were made somewhat uncomfortable. > > This might surprise you limp wristed leftist Looney tunes but the > father of our country had definite ideals and inspirations in his > command. You might say he was the original motivational speaker. He > regularly whipped subordinates for insubordination and executed > deserters. He bucked up. He got the job done. And here’s the thing; > don’t try that civilized, the times have changed, we are more > enlightened flank attack on my soon to be recognized as a literary > masterpiece postulation. That ship has sailed Sally. > > Just because you Sheila’s don’t have the backbone or testicular > fortitude to put Abdulla’s head in a vice until he gives up what well > little Timmy is in doesn’t give you the right to question those of us > that will do the heavy lifting and put us in the dock. Better yet to > simply say thank-you and leave us to protecting your sorry ass. > > Yet, instead; you decry the methods that we stalwarts employ to allow > you to peacefully sleep at night in a cozy home filled with promising > offspring. How dare you! How dare you question the methods that we > apply to the protection of you and the ones you love? > > How sanctimonious you must be. To bitterly suffer the application of a > trying debate that stakes it flag to the mythical high moral ground in > only the abstract. When in, “dynamic realism” innocent people are > butchered while good men do nothing. > > Listen up you symbiotic simian stupidest scene stealers. All of the > theatrics, hand wringing aestivations hoping to stretch this debate > well nigh into the fall, one might presume that at some point the > adults will once again command the steering of this frog back into a > tadpole. This isn’t news. Hell yes we should torture. It should be > done quietly and not on the front page of the New York Slimes. Come to > think of it; my garage is pretty quiet. I’m just saying…. > Conservative Springfield Staff Writer > > On May 17, 3:43 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yes I know > > > Though the ones who will at least admit that if it is wrong to pour water up > > a suspected terrorist's nose it is wrong to bomb him and his family with a > > predator drone, as Odumba does, are not in the same pit of hell as the > > Demwit party hieracrhy and the Odumba felching media and the Odumba sheeple > > monkeys > > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Keith In Tampa > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > Hey Bruce, > > > > I don't believe that there is any evidence that the CIA or the DOD > > > operated > > > outside of the law, but to answer your question, because for the most > > > part, > > > those that hold far left, extremist radical viewpoints are hypocrites. > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:57 PM, bruce majors > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> why do "liberals" get upset when the cia or dod operate outside of the > > >> law > > >> or the constitution, but not when congress, the irs, or regulatory > > >> agencies > > >> do? > > > >> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Keith In Tampa > > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >>> Holly, > > > >>> How you gathered that I somehow suggested this, from any of my posts, is > > >>> just amazing. I have never suggested anything of the sort. As a > > >>> matter of > > >>> fact, the recent information released by the Obama Administration > > >>> demostrates that the CIA was methodical and quite careful to insure that > > >>> they were within the confines of the law. > > > >>> My point is simple. There was no authorized torture, period. The > > >>> United > > >>> States Army, (or any of our military branches) do not have the means > > >>> nor > > >>> the capability to utilize enhanced interrogation techniques. The Army > > >>> is > > >>> limited by the guidelines listed in the Army Field Manual, as it should > > >>> be. Those who violated the written military policy should be > > >>> prosceuted, > > >>> as they were. > > > >>> The CIA is not limited to the Army Field Manual, and great as stated, > > >>> the > > >>> CIA as well as the Bush Administration went to great lengths and extreme > > >>> measures to insure that the CIA did not cross the proverbial > > >>> line.....There > > >>> was no "torture" while administering enhanced interrogation techniques. > > >>> I > > >>> say this after extensive study of the facts and information that has > > >>> been > > >>> released to date. It is my qualified opinion that the enhanced > > >>> interrogation techniques did not constitute torture. I say this > > >>> without any > > >>> partisanship whatsoever. My opinion could change, if there is more > > >>> evidence that is released that may in fact constitute "torture" but to > > >>> date, > > >>> we have seen no such evidence. > > > >>> Sean is a Moonbat. He has no understanding of what actually took place > > >>> or transpired, and I would surmise that he has not even read the > > >>> Memoranda > > >>> by Jay Bybee, Steven Bradbury, John Yoo, or the "Rumsfeld Defense > > >>> Department > > >>> Working Group". All Sugarshack can do, and all Sugarshack has done, is > > >>> mimic those very partisan individuals who are on a hate campaign > > >>> against the > > >>> former Administration, but have to date, not attempted to attach any > > >>> legal > > >>> precepts or rational, cognitive critical thinking to their argument. > > >>> "Torture" is an easy, fun word for folks like Sean to sling out, yet > > >>> they > > >>> have no clue what the legal definition of torture is. > > > >>> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Hollywood > > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >>>> KIT, > > > >>>> What are you saying? That the CIA operates completely outside U.S. > > >>>> civil and criminal codes AND the UCMJ and is not subject to ANY of > > >>>> those codes, regulations or laws? > > > >>>> On May 17, 9:17 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > Sean, > > > >>>> > So, this is really what it boils down to, as I suspicioned. What you > > >>>> are > > >>>> > really saying is, "I Hate Bush, But I Don't Know Why". > > > >>>> > What transpired at Abu Gharib is not at all what transpired with > > >>>> enhanced > > >>>> > interrogation techniques by the CIA. The Army has no mechanism > > >>>> > other > > >>>> than > > >>>> > the Army Field Manual to interrogate prisoners. Those individuals > > >>>> were > > >>>> > prosecuted because they were outside of Army regulations. > > > >>>> > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:26 AM, VT VirtualTruth > > >>>> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >>>> > > If we tried the little guys for what happened at Abu Gharib > > >>>> > > then the precedent has already been set for the ENTIRE > > >>>> > > Bush Administration. > > > >>>> > > I believe Nixon was also Impeached for his crimes > > >>>> > > during the Vietnam war. > > > >>>> > > Nixon resigned rather than face impeachment for his crimes > > >>>> > > while in office, and Republicans pushed all out to impeach > > >>>> > > Clinton while in office about a lie over a BJ. > > > >>>> > > So both your reasons for calling me a traitor have both been > > >>>> > > proven false based on previous precedent. > > > >>>> > > You have nothing left to say, because you have run > > >>>> > > out of realistic arguments. > > > >>>> > > On May 16, 4:47 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > > Hey Sean!! > > > >>>> > > > Actually, I thought my post was rather witty!! > > > >>>> > > > In all honesty, you seem like a bright, intelligent, (I am > > >>>> assuming > > >>>> > > younger > > >>>> > > > than me) man. It is one thing to question our governments' > > >>>> policies, > > >>>> > > and > > >>>> > > > quite another to jump on a traitorous bandwagon, accusing our > > >>>> President, > > >>>> > > > (any President!) during a time of war, of war crimes. > > > >>>> > > > I have nothing else to say on the subject. Based on all of the > > >>>> > > information > > >>>> > > > that has been released to date, I don't believe that we ever > > >>>> "tortured" > > >>>> > > > anyone. That this is just a hyped up term used by far left > > >>>> extremists > > >>>> > > who > > >>>> > > > are either uninformed, and/or have an Anti-American agenda. One > > >>>> or the > > >>>> > > > other.... > > > >>>> > > > Until such time as more information has been released, (which > > >>>> initially I > > >>>> > > > was opposed to, but now, because the Obama Administration chose > > >>>> > > > to > > >>>> > > release > > >>>> > > > the several Memoranda by Bybee and Bradbury) I want to see > > >>>> everything > > >>>> > > > released, including the documents from July 2004 that former Vice > > >>>> > > President > > >>>> > > > Cheney has requested be released. > > > >>>> > > > Until such time, I can add nothing to the > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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