EVER HERE OF  SYMBOLLISM   ? ? ?

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On Jun 21, 11:50 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote:
> All the recent talk of religion on the board (christian and Moslem)
> has lead me back to the Church of Gonz....
>
> CHRISTIAN CANNIBALS
> An argument of why Christians are cannibals (and possibly vampires)
> from Christianity's own perspective
> by Jim Walker (an ex-cannibal)
> Originated: 07 January 2003
> Additions: 10 July 2006
>
> How many Christians realize that when they eat that wafer and drink
> the wine during communion service that they, in effect, practice
> cannibalism by the partaking in the eating of human flesh and blood?
> I certainly did not know that when I underwent communion in my
> religious days. It sounds so innocent and benign; "Communion" imparts
> the concept of sharing thoughts and feelings, or so I thought. Oh how
> the priests fooled me. They used other obscure terms too, like
> "Eucharist" and "Sacrament of the Last Supper." At no time did a
> priest or deacon explain to me that I would share in the communal
> eating of the human flesh and blood of Jesus.
> Cannibal: A person who eats the flesh of human beings.
> Since Jesus represents an actual human being, and I ate him, that made
> me a cannibal. And if you have ever undergone communion, then you too
> fall into that category.
> The Church tricked me and turned me into a cannibal!
> Not only did I drink blood and eat flesh, but they made me do it in
> front of a statue of a bloody corpse hanging by nails on two pieces of
> lumber, a representation of the human whom I had just eaten. (Imagine
> eating a hamburger in front of an image of a freshly slain cow.)
>
> The Church indoctrinates cannibalism at an early age. Here we have a
> priest putting pieces of raw human flesh into the mouths of children.
>
> While Popes and priests visit foreign countries, they also make sure
> to spread their cannibalism.
> Did this priest tell this child that she would eat human meat before
> putting a slice of it into her mouth?
> When I discovered the shocking realization that I had eaten human
> flesh, and drank human blood I felt like vomiting. Where in the world
> did this morbid practice begin, I wondered. I reread the Bible for
> clues. Could that explain the mystery of the empty tomb of Jesus (Luke
> 24:3)? Did the disciples eat him?
> Several Christians tried to console me by explaining that Communion
> only represents the symbolic eating of flesh, not the real thing (I
> later discovered that many Protestant Christians don't believe in the
> literal eating of Jesus, although some do). I felt relieved for awhile
> until other Christians told me otherwise (virtually all Catholics and
> Episcopalians believe in the literal interpretation). I began to do a
> bit of research for myself from the Catholic Church's own position. My
> stomach began to churn again as I discovered what communion and the
> Eucharist really means.
>
> Communion
> Communion, or "Holy Communion" as the Church officially calls it,
> means the actual reception of the Sacrament of the Eucharist. As the
> Catholic Encyclopedia puts it, "For real reception of the Blessed
> Eucharist it is required that the sacred species be received into the
> stomach. For this alone is the eating referred to by our Lord (John
> 6:58)."
> So you can't just put it in your mouth and spit it out. Oh no. You
> have to make sure you swallow it into your stomach!
> I looked up the Biblical chapter in John 6 and found this diabolical
> revelation:
> Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye
> eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life
> in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal
> life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat
> indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. (John 6:53-55)
> Egads, I thought. Jesus really wants them to EAT HIM! It would make
> perfect sense if the disciples did eat his dead corpse. Of course you
> wouldn't want to admit your cannibalism to the unbelievers and you'd
> have to explain the missing body to the authorities. You might say
> something like, "He is not here, but is risen..." (Luke 24:6). Yeah,
> right, that's the ticket.
>
> If the disciples did eat Christ, it may have looked something like
> this.
>
> Eucharist
> Eucharist describes the name given to the "Blessed Sacrament of the
> Altar," (older religions also used blood sacrifices to an altar. Some
> used virgin humans, bulls, lambs, etc.). The Christians use it to mean
> an actual sacrifice by Jesus where they truly believe the bread and
> wine turns into the actual corporal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ.
> Christians also use other titles such as, "Table of the Lord" (Mensa
> Domini) or the morbid term, "Lord's Body" (Corpus Domini).
> From the Catholic Church and as far back as the pronouncement from the
> Council of Trent, the quintessence of the Eucharist means that "the
> Body and Blood of the God-man ARE truly, really, and substantially
> present."
>
> Here we have a community of Christians lining up to eat and swallow
> the uncooked flesh of Jesus in what Christianity calls the "Blessed
> sacrament of the Altar" or better known as the 'Eucharist' during a
> ceremony of communion. Looks innocent, doesn't it? Not at all the
> image of cannibalism as usually depicted in folklore.
> The Catechism of the Catholic Church (1992), stresses the centrality
> of the Eucharist to Catholic life:
>         The Eucharist is 'the source and summit of the Christian life.' The
> other sacraments, and indeed all ecclesiastical ministries and works
> of the apostolate, are bound up with the Eucharist and are oriented
> toward it. For in the Eucharist is contained the whole spiritual good
> of the Church, namely Christ himself, or Pasch.
> The Catechism of the Catholic Church, No. 1324
> So if you practice Catholicism, and wish to remain a Catholic, you
> must honor the connubiality of the Eucharist. Not only does it mean
> eating the flesh and blood of Christ as a sacrifice, it means a union
> with the gore:
>         In the Eucharist the sacrifice of Christ becomes also the sacrifice
> of the members of his Body. The lives of the faithful, their praise,
> sufferings, prayer, and work, are united with those of Christ and with
> his total offering, and so acquire a new value. Christ's sacrifice
> present on the altar makes it possible for all generations of
> Christians to be untied with his offering.
> The Catechism of the Catholic Church, No. 1368
> Moreover, you must never deny the priesthoods power of consecrating
> the flesh and blood:
>         If any one shall say that in the New Testament there is no visible
> and external priesthood nor any power of consecrating and offering the
> Body and Blood of the Lord, as well as of remitting and retaining
> sins, but merely the office and bare ministry of preaching the Gospel,
> let him be anathema.
> Council of Trent, No. 961
> Note: anathema means cursed, a malediction on your soul.
> So how does bread and wine turn into actual flesh, you may ask? The
> Christians believe it comes from the concept of transubstantiation.
>
> Transubstantiation
> According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, Hildebert of Tours (~1079)
> probably first used the term transubstantiation and the Church later
> adopted the practice in the Fourth Council of the Lateran (1215) and
> the Council of Lyons (1274), and finally, the Council of Trent
> (1545-1563).
> Transubstantiation basically means, the transition or conversion of
> one thing into another in some aspect of being. Turning water into
> wine gives one example of transubstantiation, and turning bread into
> flesh and wine into blood gives another. Transubstantiation, however,
> doesn't just describe a simple conversion of one thing into another
> but a substantial conversion (conversio substantialis).
> Transubstantiation differs from every other substantial conversion in
> this, that only the substance gets converted into another.
> [Advice to the Church: Before converting the wine into blood, why not
> also transubstantiate water into wine? No need for expensive grape
> orchards, harvesting, or processing because Jesus would do the entire
> conversion for you for free. That way, you could give (or better yet,
> sell) bottles of wine to your congregations (you could call it "Jesus
> Juice"). You could establish Catholic wineries around the world! Just
> imagine the new converts you would get and, oh how your coffer cups
> would overflow. Just a thought.]
> In the Eucharist, two extremes of conversions occur, namely the bread
> and wine as the terminus a quo, and the Body and Blood of Christ as
> the terminus ad quem (before and after). In other words, the substance
> of the bread and wine departs in order to make room for the Body and
> Blood of Christ.
> Transubstantiation, as a conversion of the total substance, is the
> transition of the entire substance of the bread and wine into the Body
> and Blood of Christ, comes as the express doctrine of the Church
> (Council of Trent, Sess. XIII, can. ii).
> This theophagy (god eating) of course did not come first from the
> Catholics but had occurred throughout pagan religions long before
> Christianity. The notion that eating another living human being lies
> at the belief of absorbing his nature into his own, thus becoming, in
> some sense, more godlike, similar to the even more primitive belief
> that eating one's enemies makes one more powerful.
> No true Christian should doubt it. Eating that wafer and drinking the
> wine in Church actually means truly and really eating human meat and
> blood. In fact, it's the entire body: eyes, brains, gall bladder,
> spleen, rectum, penis, testicles, etc. Everything. If you've ever
> watched the TV program, Fear Factor, that's nothing compared with
> eating the components of an entire human body. According to the
> Council of Trent, if you deny the Transubstantiation, then you are
> accursed (anathema). You will also get to spend eternity in hell.
> Bon appetit!
> For the full reading of this official Church doctrine from the Council
> of Trent, click here.
>
> How does transubstantiation work?
> So how does transubstantiation actually work; what process does the
> Church use to transform bread and wine into human flesh and blood (and
> guts, etc.)? Apparently this remains a deep Church secret. However, we
> do know that the priests make verbal incantations, pass smoking
> incense about, and pray a lot during a rite they call
> "Offertory" (Offertorium). Apparently the actual transformation occurs
> during the Prayer of Consecration, by which the bread and wine cease
> to be bread and wine, and are converted into the flesh and blood of
> Christ. At just what miraculous moment during the prayer it turns into
> human flesh, I haven't clue and I suspect the priests don't either.
> Apparently Jesus does the actual conversion, but I haven't discovered
> the method of how the priests know when this occurs or what test
> procedures they use to insure that Jesus made the transubstantiation
> (what if Jesus got lazy that day or just decided, enough is enough?).
> In any case, by the time the priest places the wafer into your mouth,
> you can rest assured that you are actually eating Christ's meat. (It
> tastes like chicken.)
> We do know that an industry exists to make the bread and wine. For
> example, S&M (I kid you not) stands as one of the companies that make
> official communion bread for the Church:
>
> If you don't know what S&M means, in colloquial terms it stands for
> sadomasochism or the practice of sadism (sadistic) and masochism
> (subjecting oneself to abuse or physical pain).
> Now I doubt that this company's name means or intends a connection
> with sadomasochism, but it seems an appropriate term if you consider
> what the eating of human flesh means to the recipient or the giver of
> one's own flesh. I cannot think of another word than sadomasochism to
> better describe the act of consciously eating the flesh of a human
> from another person (a sadistic act) who willingly gives them their
> flesh and blood to eat (an extreme masochist act).
> Frankwright Mundy & Co. Ltd. sells communical sets. They even offer
> briefcases and shoulder bags for carrying around the flesh and blood
> of Jesus. What next, I wondered; will they one day build fast food
> outlets where a Christian can get Jesus meat anytime of day? McJesus?
> Christ-In-A-Box? Considering the Bush administration's disregard for
> the Constitution, these chain restaurants could avoid taxes and get
> special federal funding as Faith-based institutions. We could all
> become cannibals!
>
> Vampirism
> Not only did I eat human flesh in my communion sacraments, but I also
> drank the "actual" blood of Jesus. Doesn't this make me a vampire
> also? Although vampires supposedly suck blood instead of drinking it,
> this seems an insignificant distinction. On the contrary, the drinking
> and the whole swallowing of blood as opposed to sucking seems to me a
> bit more bloodthirsty if you ask me.
> If you consider the folklore surrounding vampire stories and compare
> them with the beliefs of Christianity, the claims appear similar.
> Vampire myths (see Dracula) and Christianity both believe that by
> drinking human blood, you will live forever. Actually Christianity
> goes one step further by requiring the eating of human flesh along
> with the blood (John 6:53-55). And of course you're also eating the
> penis of Jesus (does that make one gay, I wonder?) and the small and
> large intestines of Jesus, and the bladder of Jesus, etc. Only by this
> cannibalistic act can you achieve "eternal life."
> Consider also that vampirism and their drinking of blood and
> immortality represent fiction, whereas Christians actually believe
> their communal drinking of blood and eating of Jesus' corpse will earn
> them eternal life. Doesn't this, at the very least, put Christian
> vampirism in a more deleterious light than fictional vampirism?
> Note that the actual Dracula (not the fictional one) lived as a
> Christian. Click here for more information. No doubt the real Dracula
> thoroughly enjoyed his communal ingesting of human blood.
>
> Addiction?
> Now I don't know why just one eating of flesh and drinking of blood
> won't get you to heaven, but I've yet to get a good explanation of why
> Christians need to eat flesh and blood every week. This continual
> practice of ritual cannibalism and vampirism brings up even more
> pressing questions about this gruesome practice. Does the act of
> communion lead to habitual use or an addictive need for more flesh and
> blood? Consider that Christians have done more to promote bloody wars
> throughout history than any other group, and their insistence on
> evangelizing every human on earth to their faith, should non-believers
> fear that the Christians might turn them into human flesh eaters too?
>
> (Click to enlarge)
> They start this addiction at the earliest possible age. For the first
> communion, they actually give a reward for remembering their first
> cannibalistic act, usually in the form of a certificate. (You'd think
> the promise of everlasting life would serve as enough reward.) Note
> that nowhere in the certificate does it say that you've just eaten the
> human meat of Jesus.
>
> Here we have a Christian boy eagerly awaiting his fix of Jesus' flesh.
> (Note the extra large portion.)
>
> Christian Cannibalism and vampirism continues into elderly life.
>
> How many glasses of Christ's blood has this woman drank over the
> years?
> Another concern involves the length of time of transubstantiated bread
> and wine. Just how long does this conversion last? We now know that
> you must swallow it for its effect to work, but at what stage does it
> turn back into naturally digested bread and wine? Does it remain
> transubstantiated even after digestion? Does it ever reconvert? If
> not, consider what this means as we move our bowels. Should we not
> treat the remains of Christ as sacred, just as we do the remains of
> the bodies of dead saints? Perhaps we might consider a better form of
> elimination of the excrement made from our Redeemer than just
> thoughtlessly flushing Him down the toilet.
> I find the practice of sacred cannibalism disturbing and potentially
> life threatening, regardless of how many of the addicted faithful tell
> us it will give us everlasting life. I humbly make the following
> proposal: that the FDA and the CDC get involved in the study of the
> composition of the Transubstantiated bread and wine and the narcotic
> or addictive effects they may impose on the human body.
> I hope that I have alarmed you enough to contact your local law
> enforcement office and state representative about this pressing
> matter. If you and I don't do it, who will?
>
> Conclusion
> Even if you still stubbornly cling to the belief that the Eucharist
> represents only a symbol of eating flesh and drinking blood, that
> still makes you a cannibal, if only a symbolic cannibal. If you
> partake in communion as a metaphorical representation of eating
> Christ's body, then that still makes you a metaphorical cannibal. You
> simply have no easy out of this predicament as a symbolic cannibal
> sits as a subset of cannibalism.
> You might also want to question the metaphorical or symbolic stance
> because if the Eucharist presents metaphor, then what does that say
> for Jesus himself and what Jesus directly says from the Bible about
> eating his meat? Metaphorical also? How do you distinguish between
> metaphor and reality in the Bible when it treats all doctrines equally
> as the inspired words of God? Would you object to the title of
> Symbolic Christian or Metaphorical Christian? If you consider yourself
> a metaphorical or symbolic Christian, then you still fall under the
> label of Christian just as a symbolic cannibal falls under the label
> of cannibal.
>
> There simply exists no way out for a Christian to escape the cannibal
> label, except of course to exit Christianity entirely. I did just that
> and by doing so, I escaped cannibalism along with all the other
> nonsense. I wrote this article as satire but if you live as one of the
> millions of faithful that believe in the Bible and the doctrines of
> Christianity then you must take this article as a serious argument.
>
> Sources:
> Catholic Encyclopedia
> Holy Communion
> The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist
> Offertory rite
>
> The Council of Trent The Thirteenth Session
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