you are confused just because the government is not specifically prohibited from doing something does not mean the government has the power to do it
on the contrary, unless the federal government was specifically delegated a power to do something, doing that is unconstitutional. its good the government does not know who has all the guns. The fear of a congressman or a senator of getting Lined up by an honest citizen pushed too far is probably a good thing to exist. Polticians realize that there are always going to be nutcases and there is not they can do to prevent that other than what happens daily. If it comes to them acting in a completely dictatorial way, then its honest rational citizens who are going to be thinking about a Lee Harvey moment and I suspect that avoiding such a scenario keeps some of those political whores in line On Jun 28, 10:24 pm, Frederick The Moderate <[email protected]> wrote: > Here I go agreeing with Richard again! > I don't recall the Constitution saying the right to bear arms means > the right to do so secretly. Why is that a right we need to protect. > And then, if some Blood gets caught with a glock downtown, lock him up > for 10 years! > > On Jun 28, 6:48 pm, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I hate the gun arguments. The conservatives act as if the > > constitution bans private organizations or companies from setting > > their own rules. Hells bells, there is no reason at all that a > > baseball stadium could not ban guns. On the other hand, liberals > > attempt to disguise efforts at limitation with the use of the word > > registration. Personally, I think every gun should be registered and > > logged in a central database along with ballistic records. Those > > steps in no way infringe on the freedom to own a gun and they assist > > the authorities in catching criminals who use guns in their crimes. > > Call me crazy, but I think both sides are wrong. > > > On Jun 28, 7:10 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I like owning a gun. I don't think people should be able to take Uzi's > > > to baseball games or nightclubs. I could say that you have been > > > "brainwashed" by right wing extremists who seem to deny the fact that > > > the Constitution has evolved over time but unlike those on the extreme > > > right, I don't have to insult or demean everyone who disagrees with > > > me. So I'll just assume that like me, you formed your opinion based on > > > personal insights and experiences. > > > Me? I've been stabbed once and shot twice by gang-bangers in high > > > school. So what is the solution? Arm all the kids in high school? How > > > about my friend who was shot in a bar? Arm all the drunks? > > > When the Constitution was written, there was no such thing as a police > > > force in America. We'd just fended off the British. Guns were needed > > > for food every bit as much for protection. "Wild savages" were killing > > > settlers all over the place. > > > Now, for every crime stopped with a gun, over 10,000 are committed > > > with one. > > > So while I respect your opinion, I simply disagree with it. This has > > > nothing to do with liberal left-wing brainwashing or whatever other > > > crap you care to hurl in my direction. It is just my opinion. > > > > On Jun 28, 1:43 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Fred, > > > > > I am not sure where you are going with this, and I read your message in > > > > another post; something to the effect that the government should > > > > restrict > > > > folks from bringing firearms (I think you referenced a bazooka) to a > > > > baseball game.....Or something or other. > > > > > You have literally been brainwashed by far left extremists who don't > > > > like > > > > our Constitution, especially the Clause that allows for Americans to > > > > defend > > > > themselves. The Second Amendment has worked just fine throughout our > > > > History, and has proven to be one of the reasons that we continue to > > > > remain > > > > a vibrant, free Nation-State. > > > > > I strongly encourage you to go and read the Federalist, as well as the > > > > Anti-Federalist Papers, both of which supported the language contained > > > > within the Second Amendment. > > > > > There were three major reasons for placing and documenting this > > > > unalienable > > > > right on paper: > > > > > 1. For Americans to be able to protect their homes and personal affects > > > > from domestic threats, to include, thieves, rogues, bandits, wildlife, > > > > axe > > > > murderers, etc.; > > > > > 2. For Americans to deter any acts of aggression from foreign > > > > invaders; > > > > but most importantly, > > > > > 3. To insure that our government was kept in check. > > > > > This third prong is the part that folks like Chuckie Schumer, DiFi, Babs > > > > Boxer, Maxine Waters, Bella Pelosi, and a host of other confused > > > > socialist-elitists who have an Anti-American agenda cannot stand, and > > > > wish > > > > to see done away with. > > > > > In other words, if the government has a tank, then I should have the > > > > right > > > > to have a tank. > > > > > There should be no restrictions on any law abiding citizen from owning > > > > whatever firearm he so chooses, it has nothing to do with hunting, it > > > > has to > > > > do with deterrence!! > > > > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Frederick > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > [image: Right to Bear Amrs.JPG] > > > > > Right to Bear Amrs.JPG > > > > 450KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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