Sage, correct. As far as richards post... It is they who are
"pigeon-holing"  themselves.



On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>                    Richard,
>
>                            The original point of this thread was "
> black African Americans " think they have more rights to be promoted
> than ( as you are insisting ) " white African Americans " exactly
> because of their RACE.
> So the original point is why are they using RACE ?  Because they and
> their supporters are racists and use race as their ace in the hole
> against ' whitey " to get ahead. No one here was arguing the genealogy
> of man or the color of their hair, eyes nor whether they came here '
> illegally " or not.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Jun 30, 12:39 pm, RICHARD BROWN <[email protected]>
>  wrote:
> > Exactly.  Why do we pigeon-hole people?  I have 10 "Hispanic"
> > grandchildren, according to government pigeon-holers.  Three have a
> > father from Guatemala and have an "Hispanic" name.  One of those three
> > looks like his father with black hair and brown eyes and brown skin.
> > His brother has sandy hair, blue eyes and very light-brown skin.
> > Their sister has brown hair, brown eyes and light-brown skin.  They
> > have not adopted the language of their father.  These three, though
> > only carrying 50% of their father's genes are listed as "Hispanic" not
> > Anglo.  I wonder how that makes the Anglo world feel to be rejected so
> > easily?
> > Moving on...another daughter married a man whose mother came from
> > Mexico and whose father came from India.  That would make him half
> > "Hispanic" and half "Oriental" or do we refer to those kinds of people
> > as "Sub-Cons" as they come from the subcontinent?  :-)  He has an East
> > Indian surname and does not speak Spanish and his five children are
> > light-brown skinned with black hair and brown eyes...pretty exotic
> > kids let me tell you.  They are 25% "Hispanic", 25% East Indian and
> > 50% Anglo, but to the government they are "Hispanic".
> > Finally another daughter marries a man from Chili and of course he
> > speaks Spanish, but he also speaks German and English because his
> > parents were from Germany and he arrived here when he was a teenager.
> > He has a German surname and is blonde with blue eyes.  His wife is
> > blonde with green eyes and both of their daughters are blonde with
> > blue eyes.  And according to the government they are "Hispanic".
> > If we check it out, we are all of African origin so that would make us
> > all African-Americans, right?
> > And the human comedy goes on.
> >
> > On Jun 30, 8:50 am, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Has it ever occurred to anyone here that there is no such thing as
> > > race?
> > > ---
> > > just another area of study where scientists disagree
> > > it's no wonder that some people don't respect their opinions
> >
> > >  The whole idea of dividing the human race into different races
> > > is bogus.
> > > --
> > > unless you want to provide minorities with special treatment
> >
> > > On Jun 30, 9:46 am, RICHARD BROWN <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > >  Has it ever occurred to anyone here that there is no such thing as
> > > > race?  The whole idea of dividing the human race into different races
> > > > is bogus.  A dog is a dog and a cat is a cat.  There are breeds of
> > > > dogs and cats but you can't cross breed a dog and a cat.  Humans can
> > > > and do cross breed with other humans.  The whole idea of different
> > > > races began with a German anthropologist, to justify slavery and we
> > > > still accept his error....because?  1. It makes us feel superior to
> > > > other humans.  2.  We can pretend to be oppressed and get special
> > > > treatment.  Etc.
> > > > I belong to a group of people who create non-profit organizations and
> > > > most of the members are entrepreneurs or proffesionals (M.D., CPA,
> > > > Attorney) and most of them are just a few generations from Africa.
> > > > All humans came from Africa, by the way.  They do not fit the mold
> > > > most of you seem to have for such people.  These people are leaders,
> > > > they are educated, they are doers, not complainers, they are
> > > > spiritual, not religious, they are unifiers, not dividers, they
> > > > quietly go about serving humanity.
> >
> > > > On Jun 29, 10:16 pm, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > I suspect Sotomayer's real problem is not the law, but her
> appearance;
> > > > > she looks like Quasimodo.
> >
> > > > > So, she equates growing up in the South Bronx as equivalent to a
> > > > > vicious, dog-eat-dog determent camp. Which the South Bronx was not,
> at
> > > > > least the section where she lived around Yankee Stadium.
> >
> > > > > It wasn't the shortage of Latin lessons or calculus, but the
> shortage
> > > > > of dates - as in none. Which turned all "her" neighborhoods into
> one
> > > > > big metal foundry, and her own personal, giant axe to grind.- Hide
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