How is this like what Bush did. Bush did not implement a treaty without the approval of the Senate first. That is what Obama is trying to do. Suppose he implements it and the Senate votes it down. Then what happens.
Frederick The Moderate wrote: > It seems the Dems are now doing exactly what Bush did - except it's > the GOP who's compaining this time. Now if Obama starts telling us how > "We absolutely must do this right away or they will blow us all up > with WMDs!", he will have completed his journey to the Dark Side of > the Force. > > I don't like the smell of it but will wait to see if they actually try > it, before getting to rattled... > > On Jul 6, 9:14 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sounds right to me. I don't see where the president can just make the >> treaty without the consent of the US Senate. If I remember right it >> takes both of them to approve the treaties. It is not really a done >> deal if the president signs it unless the senate also approves it. >> Guess they forgot that one. Of course they also tried to forget that >> when it came to Kyoto for a while as the Dems tried to force the US to >> implement a treaty that the Senate never ratified. Looks like another >> one coming along. >> >> *The Constitution Imposes Severe Limits On A President's Treaty-Making >> Powers: * Here's the relevant section >> <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am...>: >> >> He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the >> Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators >> present concur; >> >> The Obama administration is finding that limitation inconvenient >> <http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat...>, >> and so they are thinking of "temporarily bypassing" >> <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...> >> the Senate. Not on any important matter, just a little agreement with >> the Russians on limiting nuclear arms. >> >> I looked carefully through the Constitution, and could not find any >> provision that allows a president to bypass, temporarily or otherwise, >> that limit on his treaty-making powers. >> >> Senator Byrd --- among others --- isn't going to like this one little bit. >> - 8:08 AM, 6 July 2009 [link] >> <http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
