Examples?? And don't try to pull Kyoto because that was never approved by the Senate and the last Geneva Accord was not approved either.
THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote: > Bush did not implement treaties he broke them without Congressional > approval. > > On Jul 6, 11:55 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> How is this like what Bush did. Bush did not implement a treaty without >> the approval of the Senate first. That is what Obama is trying to do. >> Suppose he implements it and the Senate votes it down. Then what happens. >> >> >> >> Frederick The Moderate wrote: >> >>> It seems the Dems are now doing exactly what Bush did - except it's >>> the GOP who's compaining this time. Now if Obama starts telling us how >>> "We absolutely must do this right away or they will blow us all up >>> with WMDs!", he will have completed his journey to the Dark Side of >>> the Force. >>> >>> I don't like the smell of it but will wait to see if they actually try >>> it, before getting to rattled... >>> >>> On Jul 6, 9:14 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds right to me. I don't see where the president can just make the >>>> treaty without the consent of the US Senate. If I remember right it >>>> takes both of them to approve the treaties. It is not really a done >>>> deal if the president signs it unless the senate also approves it. >>>> Guess they forgot that one. Of course they also tried to forget that >>>> when it came to Kyoto for a while as the Dems tried to force the US to >>>> implement a treaty that the Senate never ratified. Looks like another >>>> one coming along. >>>> >>>> *The Constitution Imposes Severe Limits On A President's Treaty-Making >>>> Powers: * Here's the relevant section >>>> <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am...>: >>>> >>>> He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the >>>> Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators >>>> present concur; >>>> >>>> The Obama administration is finding that limitation inconvenient >>>> <http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat...>, >>>> and so they are thinking of "temporarily bypassing" >>>> <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...> >>>> the Senate. Not on any important matter, just a little agreement with >>>> the Russians on limiting nuclear arms. >>>> >>>> I looked carefully through the Constitution, and could not find any >>>> provision that allows a president to bypass, temporarily or otherwise, >>>> that limit on his treaty-making powers. >>>> >>>> Senator Byrd --- among others --- isn't going to like this one little bit. >>>> - 8:08 AM, 6 July 2009 [link] >>>> <http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578>- Hide >>>> quoted text - >>>> >> - Show quoted text - >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
