Bush did not implement treaties he broke them without Congressional approval.
On Jul 6, 11:55 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > How is this like what Bush did. Bush did not implement a treaty without > the approval of the Senate first. That is what Obama is trying to do. > Suppose he implements it and the Senate votes it down. Then what happens. > > > > Frederick The Moderate wrote: > > It seems the Dems are now doing exactly what Bush did - except it's > > the GOP who's compaining this time. Now if Obama starts telling us how > > "We absolutely must do this right away or they will blow us all up > > with WMDs!", he will have completed his journey to the Dark Side of > > the Force. > > > I don't like the smell of it but will wait to see if they actually try > > it, before getting to rattled... > > > On Jul 6, 9:14 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Sounds right to me. I don't see where the president can just make the > >> treaty without the consent of the US Senate. If I remember right it > >> takes both of them to approve the treaties. It is not really a done > >> deal if the president signs it unless the senate also approves it. > >> Guess they forgot that one. Of course they also tried to forget that > >> when it came to Kyoto for a while as the Dems tried to force the US to > >> implement a treaty that the Senate never ratified. Looks like another > >> one coming along. > > >> *The Constitution Imposes Severe Limits On A President's Treaty-Making > >> Powers: * Here's the relevant section > >> <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am...>: > > >> He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the > >> Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators > >> present concur; > > >> The Obama administration is finding that limitation inconvenient > >> <http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat...>, > >> and so they are thinking of "temporarily bypassing" > >> <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...> > >> the Senate. Not on any important matter, just a little agreement with > >> the Russians on limiting nuclear arms. > > >> I looked carefully through the Constitution, and could not find any > >> provision that allows a president to bypass, temporarily or otherwise, > >> that limit on his treaty-making powers. > > >> Senator Byrd --- among others --- isn't going to like this one little bit. > >> - 8:08 AM, 6 July 2009 [link] > >> <http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578>- Hide > >> quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
