You just like being contrary Freddie? >the number of Christian whackjob fanatics is minimal compared to the number >Muslim fanatics.
That's an understatement. >My belief is that none of them would ever have wanted anyone killed in their >name. I didn't assert that. In fact I said that it people who poison religion. On Jul 18, 7:17 pm, Frederick The Moderate <[email protected]> wrote: > And except in the case of "Christians" who murder people in front of > children at a church. But without a doubt, the number of Christian > whackjob fanatics is minimal compared to the number Muslim fanatics. > I've read the Bible, the Qu'Ran, The Baghivad Ghita, Teachings of > Buddha etc... My belief is that none of them would ever have wanted > anyone killed in their name. > > On Jul 18, 10:48 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > This is a real interesting conversation and all......Jesus was this > > and Muhammed was that....but the bottom line is that Islam today has > > been infected with a very violent and deadly cancer that seems to be > > spreading. They preach hatred and death in their Madrasas. Their > > highest "Holy Men" put contracts (fatwas) out on their "enemies". > > Suicide bombings are encouraged and praised. No doubt that Holy Wars > > have witnessed many religions killing in the name of God, but we are > > moving away from that......except in the case of Islam. They are > > regressing. > > > On Jul 18, 1:32 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well Jim, I didn't expect such a stimulating and yet civil debate on > > > the subject. Thanks for opening it up! > > > I'll start with something simple that I'm sure will evoke a strong > > > response from you. > > > Mohammed killed no one. > > > More people have been killed in the name of Jesus, than in the name of > > > Mohammed. Much of this is due to the fact that Christianity has simply > > > been around longer and has been better financed & polltically > > > influential. > > > It has been called a sin to display rage and violence in a worship. > > > It has been called a sin to deny the presence of God as being > > > everywhere, at all times. > > > It has been called a sin to drink alcohol or to faclilitate others > > > getting drunk. > > > In Jesus' time it was definitely a sin to break Jewish laws and > > > traditions. > > > Jesus sinned. > > > There may have been extenuating circumstances but isn't that often the > > > case? > > > > The foundation of every Religion is to ignore the message, and worship > > > the messenger as a way to separate themselves from others. The > > > foundation of Christian Spirituality is simpler. It is to use the > > > message and examples of Christ to accept everyone, to love everyone - > > > even those your would call enemy, and to know you are not worthy to > > > judge anyone. > > > > On Jul 18, 6:07 am, Jim Willis <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > All true, yet my posit is correct. I simply point out that the cult of > > > > Islam, has as its foundation a false prophet. Again; whom did Jesus > > > > rape, torture or kill? The followers of all religions have their > > > > zealots. Yet, the foundation of Christianity is a belief in Christ. > > > > Who,... as we know, committed no sin. Mohamed met not the same > > > > standards. Judaism is based on the five books of Moses. They cannot > > > > recognize Jesus as the son of God...for doing so would awash their > > > > hands in his blood. The Byzantine Empire, "or more apt" to wit; the > > > > fourth crusade only buttresses the zealotry demographic of any belief. > > > > Still...I only point out the denominator. Jesus murdered no one. > > > > Mohammad founded a cult that embraced pedophilia, torture and killing. > > > > And...he plagiarized the old testament. Poorly I might add. > > > > > On Jul 18, 7:19 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Islam does not ignore Christ- it distorts him. Judaism neither ignores > > > > > Christ but refused to give up their tenets of belief over several > > > > > issues. > > > > > > On Jul 18, 5:56 am, Jim Willis <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > One distinction; Muhammad went into the dessert, hashish pipe in > > > > > > hand > > > > > > and amid a cloud of smoke plagiarized much of the old testament, > > > > > > only > > > > > > changing it enough to qualify as an illiterate cultist. He then set > > > > > > about murdering, raping and instituting pedophilia as a construct, > > > > > > "a > > > > > > tenet" of a religion he had fabricated. One question? How many > > > > > > people > > > > > > did Jesus kill, how many he he rape? You proffer your radical > > > > > > Christianity, ...so do I. Doing so, "as you know" means to strive to > > > > > > be Christ-like. And...an acceptance of divinity only through our > > > > > > savior. IF...you heartily believe that, how can you ever be > > > > > > accepting > > > > > > of a murdering cult that ignores Christ? I'm just saying... > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 3:54 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > If by "muzzie" you mean Muslim, well Christianity and Islam share > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > unfortunate characteristic: The majority of their followers have a > > > > > > > penchant for telling everyone else who God likes and whom he > > > > > > > doesn't. > > > > > > > As if they know. > > > > > > > I'm a Radical Christian. Christ is my wayshower but I believe it > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > be extremely arrogant of me to go around telling others that > > > > > > > they're > > > > > > > not good enough for God - regardless of whether they are Buddhist, > > > > > > > Muslims, turtle worshippers or whatever. The example I follow > > > > > > > says Who > > > > > > > am I to Judge? > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 9:25 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sounds like muzzieshit to me. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Frederick > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [image: Religion.JPG] > > > > > > > > > Religion.JPG > > > > > > > > 158KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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