If I might knock the halo from your head for a moment, you have your
own ways of being obnoxious. Remember, your wife pointed it out to
you. Have you forgotten already.

On Jul 18, 9:51 pm, Frederick The Moderate
<[email protected]> wrote:
> No. Not being contrary. Just expressing opinions but I guess since
> they don't identically mirror yours, your would view it that way. You
> seem unable to post or reply without attacking or insulting someone.
> Oh well, that's you I guess.
>
> On Jul 18, 6:40 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > You just like being contrary Freddie?
>
> > >the number of Christian whackjob fanatics is minimal compared to the 
> > >number Muslim fanatics.
>
> > That's an understatement.
>
> > >My belief is that none of them would ever have wanted anyone killed in 
> > >their name.
>
> > I didn't assert that. In fact I said that it people who poison
> > religion.
>
> > On Jul 18, 7:17 pm, Frederick The Moderate
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > And except in the case of "Christians" who murder people in front of
> > > children at a church. But without a doubt, the number of Christian
> > > whackjob fanatics is minimal compared to the number Muslim fanatics.
> > > I've read the Bible, the Qu'Ran, The Baghivad Ghita, Teachings of
> > > Buddha etc... My belief is that none of them would ever have wanted
> > > anyone killed in their name.
>
> > > On Jul 18, 10:48 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > This is a real interesting conversation and all......Jesus was this
> > > > and Muhammed was that....but the bottom line is that Islam today has
> > > > been infected with a very violent and deadly cancer that seems to be
> > > > spreading. They preach hatred and death in their Madrasas. Their
> > > > highest "Holy Men" put contracts (fatwas) out on their "enemies".
> > > > Suicide bombings are encouraged and praised. No doubt that Holy Wars
> > > > have witnessed many religions killing in the name of God,  but we are
> > > > moving away from that......except in the case of Islam. They are
> > > > regressing.
>
> > > > On Jul 18, 1:32 pm, Frederick The Moderate
>
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Well Jim, I didn't expect such a stimulating and yet civil debate on
> > > > > the subject. Thanks for opening it up!
> > > > > I'll start with something simple that I'm sure will evoke a strong
> > > > > response from you.
> > > > > Mohammed killed no one.
> > > > > More people have been killed in the name of Jesus, than in the name of
> > > > > Mohammed. Much of this is due to the fact that Christianity has simply
> > > > > been around longer and has been better financed & polltically
> > > > > influential.
> > > > > It has been called a sin to display rage and violence in a worship.
> > > > > It has been called a sin to deny the presence of God as being
> > > > > everywhere, at all times.
> > > > > It has been called a sin to drink alcohol or to faclilitate others
> > > > > getting drunk.
> > > > > In Jesus' time it was definitely a sin to break Jewish laws and
> > > > > traditions.
> > > > > Jesus sinned.
> > > > > There may have been extenuating circumstances but isn't that often the
> > > > > case?
>
> > > > > The foundation of every Religion is to ignore the message, and worship
> > > > > the messenger as a way to separate themselves from others. The
> > > > > foundation of Christian Spirituality is simpler. It is to use the
> > > > > message and examples of Christ to accept everyone, to love everyone -
> > > > > even those your would call enemy, and to know you are not worthy to
> > > > > judge anyone.
>
> > > > > On Jul 18, 6:07 am, Jim Willis <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > All true, yet my posit is correct. I simply point out that the cult 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > Islam, has as its foundation a false prophet. Again; whom did Jesus
> > > > > > rape, torture or kill? The followers of all religions have their
> > > > > > zealots. Yet, the foundation of Christianity is a belief in Christ.
> > > > > > Who,... as we know, committed no sin. Mohamed met not the same
> > > > > > standards. Judaism is based on the five books of Moses. They cannot
> > > > > > recognize Jesus as the son of God...for doing so would awash their
> > > > > > hands in his blood. The Byzantine Empire, "or more apt" to wit; the
> > > > > > fourth crusade only buttresses the zealotry demographic of any 
> > > > > > belief.
> > > > > > Still...I only point out the denominator. Jesus murdered no one.
> > > > > > Mohammad founded a cult that embraced pedophilia, torture and 
> > > > > > killing.
> > > > > > And...he plagiarized the old testament. Poorly I might add.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 18, 7:19 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Islam does not ignore Christ- it distorts him. Judaism neither 
> > > > > > > ignores
> > > > > > > Christ but refused to give up their tenets of belief over several
> > > > > > > issues.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 18, 5:56 am, Jim Willis <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > One distinction; Muhammad went into the dessert, hashish pipe 
> > > > > > > > in hand
> > > > > > > > and amid a cloud of smoke plagiarized much of the old 
> > > > > > > > testament, only
> > > > > > > > changing it enough to qualify as an illiterate cultist. He then 
> > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > about murdering, raping and instituting pedophilia as a 
> > > > > > > > construct, "a
> > > > > > > > tenet" of a religion he had fabricated. One question? How many 
> > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > did Jesus kill, how many he he rape? You proffer your radical
> > > > > > > > Christianity, ...so do I. Doing so, "as you know" means to 
> > > > > > > > strive to
> > > > > > > > be Christ-like. And...an acceptance of divinity only through our
> > > > > > > > savior. IF...you heartily believe that, how can you ever be 
> > > > > > > > accepting
> > > > > > > > of a murdering cult that ignores Christ? I'm just saying...
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 3:54 am, Frederick The Moderate
>
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > If by "muzzie" you mean Muslim, well Christianity and Islam 
> > > > > > > > > share one
> > > > > > > > > unfortunate characteristic: The majority of their followers 
> > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > penchant for telling everyone else who God likes and whom he 
> > > > > > > > > doesn't.
> > > > > > > > > As if they know.
> > > > > > > > > I'm a Radical Christian. Christ is my wayshower but I believe 
> > > > > > > > > it would
> > > > > > > > > be extremely arrogant of me to go around telling others that 
> > > > > > > > > they're
> > > > > > > > > not good enough for God - regardless of whether they are 
> > > > > > > > > Buddhist,
> > > > > > > > > Muslims, turtle worshippers or whatever. The example I follow 
> > > > > > > > > says Who
> > > > > > > > > am I to Judge?
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 9:25 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Sounds like muzzieshit to me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Frederick 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
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