I don't claim to be perfect. There are people here who are SO rude, I
respond in kind from time to time. You would be an example. Whereas i
can show several posts where I have admitted I was wrong, lacking in
knowledge or someone with a differing view had a good point, you
can't. But you're right, I should be stronger of character.
On the other side, it's your weakness of character that stops you from
ever admitting you're wrong or even that you just don't know as much
as others on a particular subject. It is that same weakness and fear
that compels you to attack and insult people in almost every post and
reply you put here.
Or perhaps I'm wrong. Nahhhh, I'm not. You need only go through your
own posts to see I'm right. Sad really.

On Jul 18, 7:12 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
> If I might knock the halo from your head for a moment, you have your
> own ways of being obnoxious. Remember, your wife pointed it out to
> you. Have you forgotten already.
>
> On Jul 18, 9:51 pm, Frederick The Moderate
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > No. Not being contrary. Just expressing opinions but I guess since
> > they don't identically mirror yours, your would view it that way. You
> > seem unable to post or reply without attacking or insulting someone.
> > Oh well, that's you I guess.
>
> > On Jul 18, 6:40 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > You just like being contrary Freddie?
>
> > > >the number of Christian whackjob fanatics is minimal compared to the 
> > > >number Muslim fanatics.
>
> > > That's an understatement.
>
> > > >My belief is that none of them would ever have wanted anyone killed in 
> > > >their name.
>
> > > I didn't assert that. In fact I said that it people who poison
> > > religion.
>
> > > On Jul 18, 7:17 pm, Frederick The Moderate
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > And except in the case of "Christians" who murder people in front of
> > > > children at a church. But without a doubt, the number of Christian
> > > > whackjob fanatics is minimal compared to the number Muslim fanatics.
> > > > I've read the Bible, the Qu'Ran, The Baghivad Ghita, Teachings of
> > > > Buddha etc... My belief is that none of them would ever have wanted
> > > > anyone killed in their name.
>
> > > > On Jul 18, 10:48 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > This is a real interesting conversation and all......Jesus was this
> > > > > and Muhammed was that....but the bottom line is that Islam today has
> > > > > been infected with a very violent and deadly cancer that seems to be
> > > > > spreading. They preach hatred and death in their Madrasas. Their
> > > > > highest "Holy Men" put contracts (fatwas) out on their "enemies".
> > > > > Suicide bombings are encouraged and praised. No doubt that Holy Wars
> > > > > have witnessed many religions killing in the name of God,  but we are
> > > > > moving away from that......except in the case of Islam. They are
> > > > > regressing.
>
> > > > > On Jul 18, 1:32 pm, Frederick The Moderate
>
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Well Jim, I didn't expect such a stimulating and yet civil debate on
> > > > > > the subject. Thanks for opening it up!
> > > > > > I'll start with something simple that I'm sure will evoke a strong
> > > > > > response from you.
> > > > > > Mohammed killed no one.
> > > > > > More people have been killed in the name of Jesus, than in the name 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > Mohammed. Much of this is due to the fact that Christianity has 
> > > > > > simply
> > > > > > been around longer and has been better financed & polltically
> > > > > > influential.
> > > > > > It has been called a sin to display rage and violence in a worship.
> > > > > > It has been called a sin to deny the presence of God as being
> > > > > > everywhere, at all times.
> > > > > > It has been called a sin to drink alcohol or to faclilitate others
> > > > > > getting drunk.
> > > > > > In Jesus' time it was definitely a sin to break Jewish laws and
> > > > > > traditions.
> > > > > > Jesus sinned.
> > > > > > There may have been extenuating circumstances but isn't that often 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > case?
>
> > > > > > The foundation of every Religion is to ignore the message, and 
> > > > > > worship
> > > > > > the messenger as a way to separate themselves from others. The
> > > > > > foundation of Christian Spirituality is simpler. It is to use the
> > > > > > message and examples of Christ to accept everyone, to love everyone 
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > even those your would call enemy, and to know you are not worthy to
> > > > > > judge anyone.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 18, 6:07 am, Jim Willis <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > All true, yet my posit is correct. I simply point out that the 
> > > > > > > cult of
> > > > > > > Islam, has as its foundation a false prophet. Again; whom did 
> > > > > > > Jesus
> > > > > > > rape, torture or kill? The followers of all religions have their
> > > > > > > zealots. Yet, the foundation of Christianity is a belief in 
> > > > > > > Christ.
> > > > > > > Who,... as we know, committed no sin. Mohamed met not the same
> > > > > > > standards. Judaism is based on the five books of Moses. They 
> > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > recognize Jesus as the son of God...for doing so would awash their
> > > > > > > hands in his blood. The Byzantine Empire, "or more apt" to wit; 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > fourth crusade only buttresses the zealotry demographic of any 
> > > > > > > belief.
> > > > > > > Still...I only point out the denominator. Jesus murdered no one.
> > > > > > > Mohammad founded a cult that embraced pedophilia, torture and 
> > > > > > > killing.
> > > > > > > And...he plagiarized the old testament. Poorly I might add.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 18, 7:19 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Islam does not ignore Christ- it distorts him. Judaism neither 
> > > > > > > > ignores
> > > > > > > > Christ but refused to give up their tenets of belief over 
> > > > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > issues.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 5:56 am, Jim Willis 
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > One distinction; Muhammad went into the dessert, hashish pipe 
> > > > > > > > > in hand
> > > > > > > > > and amid a cloud of smoke plagiarized much of the old 
> > > > > > > > > testament, only
> > > > > > > > > changing it enough to qualify as an illiterate cultist. He 
> > > > > > > > > then set
> > > > > > > > > about murdering, raping and instituting pedophilia as a 
> > > > > > > > > construct, "a
> > > > > > > > > tenet" of a religion he had fabricated. One question? How 
> > > > > > > > > many people
> > > > > > > > > did Jesus kill, how many he he rape? You proffer your radical
> > > > > > > > > Christianity, ...so do I. Doing so, "as you know" means to 
> > > > > > > > > strive to
> > > > > > > > > be Christ-like. And...an acceptance of divinity only through 
> > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > savior. IF...you heartily believe that, how can you ever be 
> > > > > > > > > accepting
> > > > > > > > > of a murdering cult that ignores Christ? I'm just saying...
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 3:54 am, Frederick The Moderate
>
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > If by "muzzie" you mean Muslim, well Christianity and Islam 
> > > > > > > > > > share one
> > > > > > > > > > unfortunate characteristic: The majority of their followers 
> > > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > penchant for telling everyone else who God likes and whom 
> > > > > > > > > > he doesn't.
> > > > > > > > > > As if they know.
> > > > > > > > > > I'm a Radical Christian. Christ is my wayshower but I 
> > > > > > > > > > believe it would
> > > > > > > > > > be extremely arrogant of me to go around telling others 
> > > > > > > > > > that they're
> > > > > > > > > > not good enough for God - regardless of whether they are 
> > > > > > > > > > Buddhist,
> > > > > > > > > > Muslims, turtle worshippers or whatever. The example I 
> > > > > > > > > > follow says Who
> > > > > > > > > > am I to Judge?
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 9:25 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like muzzieshit to me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Frederick 
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
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