dick, Yeah, but Bush would have put sand in thr KY, just to be mean.
On Aug 4, 2:44 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > What good are they going to be - no engine parts available - all you > would be sending to India would be a rusty body shell and body parts. > Too bad Zero didn't check that he got a whole lot of votes from the > ghettos that he just screwed with the benefit of KY. Nice of him - no? > > > > DOC828NDF wrote: > > We will probably end up sending most of them to India, or they'll end > > up in some used car hell hole in a ghetto > > > On Aug 4, 3:24 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> You answered your own question. Remove an engine and turn a decent car > >> over to any respectable 'junk yard' and they'll make a fortune on > >> parts. It's huge business. I guess the government wanted to make sure > >> the buyer didn't get up to $4500 AND make a profit off of - or keep > >> using - the car, but they weren't too concerned about others down the > >> line making money. > > >> I'm used to always being qualified to pay for everything while never > >> qualifying to receive anything -- nothing new here. > > >> On Aug 4, 2:55 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> What can be parted out? They put sodium silicate in the block which > >>> destroys the mechanicals totally. You might get some body parts but no > >>> engine parts. The answer is the US taxpayer takes it in the ass on both > >>> sides of the deal at once. Aren't you glad the vote last fall went the > >>> way it did. The country is in the best of hands, so they say. > > >>> Mark wrote: > > >>>> Will the government owned(?) gas guzzlers that are traded in actually > >>>> be crushed or will they be sold out of country at a profit ?? > > >>>> If they are crushed who gets the salvage money, if they are > >>>> partsed out who gets the dough, if they are sold who gets that > >>>> money... or does the US taxpayer simply take it in the ass on both > >>>> sides of the deal once again. > > >>>> Any of the three represents substantial cash. > > >>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Sage2 <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >>>> Doc, > > >>>> You and VT should take the advice of Senator Schumer ( D-NY ) > >>>> who said of the cash for clunkers program " don't fix what ain't > >>>> broke > >>>> " . Health Care ain't broken , it just needs a little adjustment, but > >>>> guys like Obama and his ilk want to crush it ! > > >>>> > >>>> ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** > > >>>> On Aug 4, 1:00 pm, DOC828NDF <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > Hmm.... I would love to agree with you, but the Republicans may be > >>>> > onto something when they say "what's the rush"... I mean, for > >>>> > example... What if we were to rush into a war without thinking it > >>>> > through? No diplomacy, and no planning... What if something goes > >>>> wrong > >>>> > and its not as easy as we initially thought? Do we really have aan > >>>> > exit strategy? We need to take some time to think this thing > >>>> through. > >>>> > After all, its not like anyone's dying for healthcare > > >>>> > On Aug 3, 3:58 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >>>> > > Health Care Reform is NEEDED NOW! > >>>> > > The Republican party is becoming the party of hatred and the > >>>> > > destruction of the American dream. > > >>>> > > Sean Lewis > >>>> > > August 3, 2009 > > >>>> > > 1) Minimal basic coverage for the unemployed and uninsured. > > >>>> > > 2) Preventative care to lower future costs > > >>>> > > 3) Restructure Medicare and Medicaid so they don't go bankrupt. > > >>>> > > Who could possibly be against this reform? > > >>>> > > Republicans! > > >>>> > > Republicans had control of the last 8 years of the > >>>> > > US political system, with Bush having veto > >>>> > > power for all eight and the GOP control of the > >>>> > > Congress for 6 years. The result was the almost > >>>> > > complete destruction of the US economy. > > >>>> > > The country was on the brink of complete collapse > >>>> > > the last quarter of the Bush Administration. An > >>>> > > Administration and party that was in complete > >>>> > > denial there was a problem with the economy. > > >>>> > > It was with the last minute infusion of over $1 Trillion > >>>> > > in a single quarter that saved the country from another > >>>> > > Depression type collapse. > > >>>> > > When economic pollicies almost end in complete > >>>> > > collapse, in my book that means FAILURE! Why > >>>> > > take advice from people who almost detroyed the > >>>> > > very thing America needed to stay strong? > > >>>> > > The effects are still being felt 3 quarters later, however > >>>> > > we have steered away from the edge by NEW Democratic > >>>> > > Leadership. > > >>>> > > There is no longer talk of the US facing economic collapse, > >>>> > > in fact there is talk of a stock market BULL rally. > > >>>> > > Yet Republicans are using everything in their political > >>>> > > arsenal to stop the Democrats and the Country itself > >>>> > > from succeeding. > > >>>> > > The lunatic fringe of the GOP are using lies, scare tactics, > >>>> > > hatred and race baiting to focus the attention of the country > >>>> > > away from healing and recovery to more of the same of the last > >>>> > > 8 years. Division, strife, class warfare and most recently > >>>> > > racism. > > >>>> > > The latest obstruction to US recovery is healthcare reform. > > >>>> > > Under the Bush Administration more people have entered the > >>>> > > uninsured rolls, the costs associated with the Social Programs > >>>> > > of Medicare, Medicaid have risen unchecked and even increased > >>>> > > due to the one 'FIX' Republicans attempted, the Medicare > >>>> Prescription > >>>> > > Drug program that did not help anyone who was not insured and > >>>> > > cost $850 Billion a year at it's inception, this figure > >>>> > > will climb as the Baby boomers retire all to give Viagra to the > >>>> > > pension > >>>> > > crowd. > > >>>> > > The Republicans rather than fixing the healthcare system actually > >>>> > > have hurried up it's demise. Because of what the Republicans have > >>>> > > done, > >>>> > > Medicare and Medicaid will go bankrupt FASTER and the Baby > >>>> Boomers > >>>> > > will be left with FEWER options if any! > > >>>> > > The Democrats are trying to fix this with reform in the form > >>>> > > of preventative care, which will lower FUTURE costs of medical > >>>> care. > > >>>> > > Costs control by forcing the insurance and drug companies to > >>>> offer > >>>> > > lower priced care through competition. > > >>>> > > Finally actually offering Minimal low cost coverage for the > >>>> uninsured > >>>> > > and unemployed! > > >>>> > > Without these changes the fate of Healthcare will be similar > >>>> to the > >>>> > > collapse of the economy in the fall of 2008! > > >>>> > > So the GOP is using scare tactics similar to the tactics to get > >>>> > > this country into war with Iraq. Scare Tactics based on lies, > >>>> half > >>>> > > truths > >>>> > > and misinformation. > > >>>> > > The GOP is using their shock troops who still believe that > >>>> President > >>>> > > Obama > >>>> > > was not born in the US despite overwhelming evidence to the > >>>> contrary! > > >>>> > > These individuals are now using the same Birther reasoning to > >>>> shout > >>>> > > abuse at town halls in an attempt to show Congress that America > >>>> is > >>>> > > against Health care reform. > > >>>> > > These are the same people who thought.... > > >>>> > > There were WMD's. > > >>>> > > Terri Schiavo was not brain dead. > > >>>> > > The was a connection between Iraq and 9/11. > > >>>> > > Al qaeda was in Iraq before the Iraq Invasion. > > >>>> > > Spying on Americans without a warrant is not against the law. > > >>>> > > The White House was not responsible for the Treasonous release > >>>> > > of a covert CIA Operatives identity. > > >>>> > > The US not tortured Iraqis, some to death, and if they did it > >>>> was to > >>>> > > protect > >>>> > > Americans, not to find a connection between Iraq and 9/11. > > >>>> > > Bush did protect Americans from the 9/11 attack > >>>> > > even after ignoring several dozen warnings of a pending attack. > > >>>> > > I can go on and on , but lets skip to the latest lunatic fringe > >>>> > > far right conspiracy which once again ignores the truth and the > >>>> > > facts to tell the LIE, Obama is not an Native born American. > >>>> > > The facts, a certified birth certificate and birth announcements > >>>> > > in local papers announcing Obama's birth seem not to matter > >>>> > > to the hate driven core racist of the GOP, the fools who believe > >>>> > > ignorance trumps intelligence, and incompetence arrogance and > >>>> > > ignorance are forgivable even if it costs American lives > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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