Holly,

                                   It means the 39.45 % you attribute
to Obama means shit.  The Obama administration has not helped this
economy one IOTA. Since he took office the unemploymant went up 3.5
and has not created OR saved one job.



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On Aug 12, 1:43 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sage2,
>
> Ah, so you DON'T dispute the info I DID give.
>
> On Aug 12, 11:38 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >              Hi Frank,
>
> >                  What Holly failed to mention is that Grandpa's 401K
> > was in a market value of 11,000....12,000....13,000 and as high as
> > 14,000 points @ it's highest. He failed to mention that the
> > unemployment rate is still @ 9.4 much higher than the Bush years.
> > Fannie & Freddie are still in trouble they want another 10.5 billion.
> > ( nice work Barney & Chris ).  A 1.6 Trillion dollar proposed
> > socialist Health Care Plan, a 13 trillion national debt. Twenty five
> > percent of home owners owe more than the value of their homes and this
> > is expected to go up to 40 % by the end of 2010: most likely all Dems
> > who are Union members or ACORN, LaRaza types.
>
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>
> > On Aug 12, 11:46 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > frankg,
>
> > > Read my response to dick. I can't be repeating myself all day, just
> > > scroll upwards a couple of inches.
>
> > > On Aug 12, 9:56 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hollywood,
>
> > > > Why do you say this was written about a year ago?  The context
> > > > throughout the letter is that Obama is already in office.  Not that it
> > > > matters, since this clearly isn't a legit letter, but I am curious why
> > > > you think that.
>
> > > > On Aug 12, 9:28 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > dick,
>
> > > > > Hey, you forgot to mention that this "letter from Grandpa" was written
> > > > > about a year or so ago, during the Bush administration. "With the
> > > > > stock market crashing" You understand that the DJIA is UP 39.45% over
> > > > > the last 5 months, right?
>
> > > > > Ol' Gramp's is pissing his pants because he's been listening to too
> > > > > much conservatives talk radio. Probably just pissed at Ashley for
> > > > > voting for Obama. Gee, wonder who it was that spoiled little Ashely in
> > > > > the first place?
>
> > > > > On Aug 11, 6:54 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > Subject: Fw: Love letter from Grandpa
> > > > > > To:
>
> > > > > >  John G. is 63 years old and owns a small business. He's a life-long
> > > > > > Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all but
> > > > > > evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes coming his 
> > > > > > way,
> > > > > > John assumes now that he will work to his dying day.
>
> > > > > >  John has a granddaughter, who is Ashley a recent college grad. She
> > > > > > drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, and 
> > > > > > loves to
> > > > > > go out to nightclub s and restaurants. Ashley campaigned hard for 
> > > > > > Barak
> > > > > > Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and all 
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so earful on 
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > the world is going to be a much better place now that her party is
> > > > > > taking over.
>
> > > > > >  Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of cash and
> > > > > > cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse. Like she has
> > > > > > done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather asking for
> > > > > > some financial help. Here is his reply:
>
> > > > > >  Sweetheart,
>
> > > > > >  I received your request for assistance.
>
> > > > > >  Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I'm sympathetic to your
> > > > > > financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With the 
> > > > > > election
> > > > > > of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set forth a 
> > > > > > bold
> > > > > > new economic plan of our own..."The Ashley Economic Empowerment 
> > > > > > Plan."
> > > > > >  Let me explain...
>
> > > > > >  Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning taxpayers. We 
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had the 
> > > > > > fancier
> > > > > > things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc. We have worked 
> > > > > > hard
> > > > > > and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has changed.
> > > > > > Your president is raising our personal and business taxes 
> > > > > > significantly.
> > > > > > He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other people. 
> > > > > > Do
> > > > > > you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and we must 
> > > > > > cut
> > > > > > back on many business and personal expenses.
>
> > > > > >  You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office for 
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > than 23 years - the one who always gave you candy when came over to
> > > > > > visit? I had to let her go last week. I can't afford to pay her 
> > > > > > salary
> > > > > > and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having 
> > > > > > employees.
> > > > > >  Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer phones, take
> > > > > > orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays and will 
> > > > > > lose
> > > > > > even more income to the Walmart.
>
> > > > > >  I'm also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will no 
> > > > > > longer be
> > > > > > working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school this 
> > > > > > morning.
> > > > > > He already knows about it and he's upset because he will have to 
> > > > > > give up
> > > > > > skydiving and his yearly trip to  Greenland to survey the polar 
> > > > > > bears..
>
> > > > > >  That's just the business side of things. Some personal economic 
> > > > > > effects
> > > > > > of Obama's new taxation policies include none other than you. You 
> > > > > > know
> > > > > > very well that over the years your grandmother and I have given you
> > > > > > thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, housing,
> > > > > > clothing, gifts, etc., etc.. But by your vote, you have chosen to 
> > > > > > help
> > > > > > others -- not at your expense -- but at our expense.
>
> > > > > >  If you need money now sweatheart, I recommend you call 
> > > > > > 202-456-1111.
> > > > > > That is the direct phone number for the White House..
> > > > > >  You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican. You 
> > > > > > said Mr.
> > > > > > Obama is going to be the People's President, and is going to help 
> > > > > > every
> > > > > > American live a better life. Based on everything you've told me, 
> > > > > > along
> > > > > > with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I'm sure Mr. 
> > > > > > Obama
> > > > > > will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank 
> > > > > > account.
> > > > > > Have him call me for the account number which I memorized years ago.
>
> > > > > >  Perhaps you can now understand what I've been saying all my life: 
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > who vote for a president should consider the impact on the nation 
> > > > > > as a
> > > > > > whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for 
> > > > > > themselves.
> > > > > > What Obama supporters don't seem to realize is all of the money he 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying A mericans (the
> > > > > > so-called "less fortunate") comes from tax-paying families.
>
> > > > > >  Remember how you told me, "Only the richest of the rich will be
> > > > > > affected"? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a business, your
> > > > > > grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of the rich. 
> > > > > > On
> > > > > > paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are far 
> > > > > > from it.
>
> > > > > >  As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will have to 
> > > > > > carry
> > > > > > more of the burden so all of America can prosper. You understand 
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive people
> > > > > > results in them having less money. Less money for everything, 
> > > > > > including
> > > > > > granddaughters.
>
> > > > > >  I'm sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry. The free lunches are 
> > > > > > over.
> > > > > > I have no money to give you now.
>
> > > > > >  So, congratulations on your choice for "change." For future 
> > > > > > reference,
> > > > > > I encourage you to try and add up the total value of the gifts and 
> > > > > > cash
> > > > > > you have received from us, just since you went off to college, and
> > > > > > compare it to what you expect to get from Mr. Obama over the next 4 
> > > > > > (or
> > > > > > 8) years. I have not kept track of it, Ashley. It has all truly 
> > > > > > been the
> > > > > > gift of our hearts.
>
> > > > > >  Remember, we love you dearly... but from now on you'll need to 
> > > > > > call the
> > > > > > number mentioned above. Your "Savior" has the money we would have 
> > > > > > given
> > > > > > to you. Just try and get it from him.
>
> > > > > >  Good luck, sweetheart,
>
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