Holly, F.Y.I.: The Dow Jones Industrial is down approximately 2500 points as compared to a year ago. I don't know where you are getting the 39 percent increase number in the past six months. It is virtually unchanged from January, 2009 till now.
http://www.nyse.tv/dow-jones-industrial-average-history-djia.htm Typical partisan mistruths and prevaricate misleading spin by you once again!! On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > dick, > > You believe whatever makes you happy. I'll take an almost 40% increase > in 5 months any day of the week. Beats the HELL out of a 40% drop. > > On Aug 13, 9:26 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Must be a non-existent stock portfolio then. > > > > > > > > Hollywood wrote: > > > Sage2, > > > > > Well it has certainly helped MY stock portfolio. :-) > > > > > On Aug 12, 1:50 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Holly, > > > > >> It means the 39.45 % you attribute > > >> to Obama means shit. The Obama administration has not helped this > > >> economy one IOTA. Since he took office the unemploymant went up 3.5 > > >> and has not created OR saved one job. > > > > >> > ********************************************************************************************************************************* > > > > >> On Aug 12, 1:43 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> Sage2, > > > > >>> Ah, so you DON'T dispute the info I DID give. > > > > >>> On Aug 12, 11:38 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>> Hi Frank, > > > > >>>> What Holly failed to mention is that Grandpa's 401K > > >>>> was in a market value of 11,000....12,000....13,000 and as high as > > >>>> 14,000 points @ it's highest. He failed to mention that the > > >>>> unemployment rate is still @ 9.4 much higher than the Bush years. > > >>>> Fannie & Freddie are still in trouble they want another 10.5 > billion. > > >>>> ( nice work Barney & Chris ). A 1.6 Trillion dollar proposed > > >>>> socialist Health Care Plan, a 13 trillion national debt. Twenty five > > >>>> percent of home owners owe more than the value of their homes and > this > > >>>> is expected to go up to 40 % by the end of 2010: most likely all > Dems > > >>>> who are Union members or ACORN, LaRaza types. > > > > >>>> > ******************************************************************************************************************************** > > > > >>>> On Aug 12, 11:46 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>> frankg, > > > > >>>>> Read my response to dick. I can't be repeating myself all day, just > > >>>>> scroll upwards a couple of inches. > > > > >>>>> On Aug 12, 9:56 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> Hollywood, > > > > >>>>>> Why do you say this was written about a year ago? The context > > >>>>>> throughout the letter is that Obama is already in office. Not > that it > > >>>>>> matters, since this clearly isn't a legit letter, but I am curious > why > > >>>>>> you think that. > > > > >>>>>> On Aug 12, 9:28 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> dick, > > > > >>>>>>> Hey, you forgot to mention that this "letter from Grandpa" was > written > > >>>>>>> about a year or so ago, during the Bush administration. "With the > > >>>>>>> stock market crashing" You understand that the DJIA is UP 39.45% > over > > >>>>>>> the last 5 months, right? > > > > >>>>>>> Ol' Gramp's is pissing his pants because he's been listening to > too > > >>>>>>> much conservatives talk radio. Probably just pissed at Ashley for > > >>>>>>> voting for Obama. Gee, wonder who it was that spoiled little > Ashely in > > >>>>>>> the first place? > > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 11, 6:54 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> - > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Fw: Love letter from Grandpa > > >>>>>>>> To: > > > > >>>>>>>> John G. is 63 years old and owns a small business. He's a > life-long > > >>>>>>>> Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all but > > >>>>>>>> evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes coming > his way, > > >>>>>>>> John assumes now that he will work to his dying day. > > > > >>>>>>>> John has a granddaughter, who is Ashley a recent college grad. > She > > >>>>>>>> drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, and > loves to > > >>>>>>>> go out to nightclub s and restaurants. Ashley campaigned hard > for Barak > > >>>>>>>> Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and all > other > > >>>>>>>> Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so earful > on how > > >>>>>>>> the world is going to be a much better place now that her party > is > > >>>>>>>> taking over. > > > > >>>>>>>> Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of cash > and > > >>>>>>>> cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse. Like she > has > > >>>>>>>> done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather asking > for > > >>>>>>>> some financial help. Here is his reply: > > > > >>>>>>>> Sweetheart, > > > > >>>>>>>> I received your request for assistance. > > > > >>>>>>>> Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I'm sympathetic to your > > >>>>>>>> financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With the > election > > >>>>>>>> of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set forth > a bold > > >>>>>>>> new economic plan of our own..."The Ashley Economic Empowerment > Plan." > > >>>>>>>> Let me explain... > > > > >>>>>>>> Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning taxpayers. > We have > > >>>>>>>> lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had the > fancier > > >>>>>>>> things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc. We have worked > hard > > >>>>>>>> and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has > changed. > > >>>>>>>> Your president is raising our personal and business taxes > significantly. > > >>>>>>>> He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other > people. Do > > >>>>>>>> you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and we > must cut > > >>>>>>>> back on many business and personal expenses. > > > > >>>>>>>> You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office for > more > > >>>>>>>> than 23 years - the one who always gave you candy when came over > to > > >>>>>>>> visit? I had to let her go last week. I can't afford to pay her > salary > > >>>>>>>> and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having > employees. > > >>>>>>>> Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer phones, > take > > >>>>>>>> orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays and > will lose > > >>>>>>>> even more income to the Walmart. > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will no > longer be > > >>>>>>>> working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school this > morning. > > >>>>>>>> He already knows about it and he's upset because he will have to > give up > > >>>>>>>> skydiving and his yearly trip to Greenland to survey the polar > bears.. > > > > >>>>>>>> That's just the business side of things. Some personal economic > effects > > >>>>>>>> of Obama's new taxation policies include none other than you. > You know > > >>>>>>>> very well that over the years your grandmother and I have given > you > > >>>>>>>> thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, housing, > > >>>>>>>> clothing, gifts, etc., etc.. But by your vote, you have chosen > to help > > >>>>>>>> others -- not at your expense -- but at our expense. > > > > >>>>>>>> If you need money now sweatheart, I recommend you call > 202-456-1111. > > >>>>>>>> That is the direct phone number for the White House.. > > >>>>>>>> You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican. You > said Mr. > > >>>>>>>> Obama is going to be the People's President, and is going to > help every > > >>>>>>>> American live a better life. Based on everything you've told me, > along > > >>>>>>>> with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I'm sure Mr. > Obama > > >>>>>>>> will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank > account. > > >>>>>>>> Have him call me for the account number which I memorized years > ago. > > > > >>>>>>>> Perhaps you can now understand what I've been saying all my > life: those > > >>>>>>>> who vote for a president should consider the impact on the > nation as a > > >>>>>>>> whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for > themselves. > > >>>>>>>> What Obama supporters don't seem to realize is all of the money > he is > > >>>>>>>> redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying A mericans > (the > > >>>>>>>> so-called "less fortunate") comes from tax-paying families. > > > > >>>>>>>> Remember how you told me, "Only the richest of the rich will be > > >>>>>>>> affected"? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a business, > your > > >>>>>>>> grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of the > rich. On > > >>>>>>>> paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are far > from it. > > > > >>>>>>>> As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will have > to carry > > >>>>>>>> more of the burden so all of America can prosper. You understand > what > > >>>>>>>> that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive > people > > >>>>>>>> results in them having less money. Less money for everything, > including > > >>>>>>>> granddaughters. > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry. The free lunches > are over. > > >>>>>>>> I have no money to give you now. > > > > >>>>>>>> So, congratulations on your choice for "change." For future > reference, > > >>>>>>>> I encourage you to try and add up the total value of the gifts > and cash > > >>>>>>>> you have received from us, just since you went off to college, > and > > >>>>>>>> compare it to what you expect to get from Mr. Obama over the > next 4 (or > > >>>>>>>> 8) years. I have not kept track of it, Ashley. It has all truly > been the > > >>>>>>>> gift of our hearts. > > > > >>>>>>>> Remember, we love you dearly... but from now on you'll need to > call the > > >>>>>>>> number mentioned above. Your "Savior" has the money we would > have given > > >>>>>>>> to you. Just try and get it from him. > > > > >>>>>>>> Good luck, sweetheart, > > > > >>>>>>>> Love, Grandpa- Hide quoted text - > > > > >>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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