KIT,

Dispute what you wrote? What? That the stock market fluctuates up and
down? Why? Do you or do you not dispute what I wrote? How about
looking at those figures and noticing that in the precious 5 months
the stocks market had shown a consistent upwards trend where the  6
months before that the trend was consistentinly downwards? Aren't you
happy that the DJ is improving? isn't that what we WANT?

Dude, dude, I thought you LIKED partisan rants. Wasn't gramps letter
one long partisan rant? You didn't seem to have a problem with that.
What does President Obama have to do with Gramps grand-daughter being
a spoiled brat?

Who the fuck says NBC is not a legitimate news organization any
longer? You & Pred?


On Aug 13, 11:02 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Holly,
>
> Then surely you don't dispute what I wrote.  That a year ago, the stock
> market was approximately 2500 points higher than it is today, and that six,
> seven months ago, the stock market was about where it is today.
>
> More importantly, your partisan point, that "Ol' Gramp's is pissing his
> pants because he's been listening to too much conservatives talk radio.
> Probably just pissed at Ashley for voting for Obama"; is typical partisan
> tripe.
>
> The truth is, (which can be seen and supported by just watching any news
> show on any cable network (with the exception of NBC, which is not a
> legitimate news organization anymore) is that clearly, not only is
> Grandpa still pissed, but Grandma, Ashley, and the majority of Americans are
> not amused......
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Hollywood 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > KIT,
>
> > BTW, you DID notice didn't you that the link you provided agrees with
> > what I posted. Yes or no?
> >  So tell me the mistruth I posted.
>
> > On Aug 13, 10:25 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Holly,
>
> > > F.Y.I.:  The Dow Jones Industrial is down approximately 2500 points as
> > > compared to a year ago.  I don't know where you are getting the 39
> > percent
> > > increase number in the past six months.  It is virtually unchanged from
> > > January, 2009 till now.
>
> > >http://www.nyse.tv/dow-jones-industrial-average-history-djia.htm
>
> > > Typical partisan mistruths and prevaricate misleading spin by you once
> > > again!!
>
> > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > dick,
>
> > > > You believe whatever makes you happy. I'll take an almost 40% increase
> > > > in 5 months any day of the week. Beats the HELL out of a 40% drop.
>
> > > > On Aug 13, 9:26 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Must be a non-existent stock portfolio then.
>
> > > > > Hollywood wrote:
> > > > > > Sage2,
>
> > > > > > Well it has certainly helped MY stock portfolio.  :-)
>
> > > > > > On Aug 12, 1:50 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>                            Holly,
>
> > > > > >>                                    It means the 39.45 % you
> > attribute
> > > > > >> to Obama means shit.  The Obama administration has not helped this
> > > > > >> economy one IOTA. Since he took office the unemploymant went up
> > 3.5
> > > > > >> and has not created OR saved one job.
>
> > ***************************************************************************­­­­******************************************************
>
> > > > > >> On Aug 12, 1:43 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > >>> Sage2,
>
> > > > > >>> Ah, so you DON'T dispute the info I DID give.
>
> > > > > >>> On Aug 12, 11:38 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>>              Hi Frank,
>
> > > > > >>>>                  What Holly failed to mention is that Grandpa's
> > 401K
> > > > > >>>> was in a market value of 11,000....12,000....13,000 and as high
> > as
> > > > > >>>> 14,000 points @ it's highest. He failed to mention that the
> > > > > >>>> unemployment rate is still @ 9.4 much higher than the Bush
> > years.
> > > > > >>>> Fannie & Freddie are still in trouble they want another 10.5
> > > > billion.
> > > > > >>>> ( nice work Barney & Chris ).  A 1.6 Trillion dollar proposed
> > > > > >>>> socialist Health Care Plan, a 13 trillion national debt. Twenty
> > five
> > > > > >>>> percent of home owners owe more than the value of their homes
> > and
> > > > this
> > > > > >>>> is expected to go up to 40 % by the end of 2010: most likely all
> > > > Dems
> > > > > >>>> who are Union members or ACORN, LaRaza types.
>
> > ***************************************************************************­­­­­­*****************************************************
>
> > > > > >>>> On Aug 12, 11:46 am, Hollywood <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>>> frankg,
>
> > > > > >>>>> Read my response to dick. I can't be repeating myself all day,
> > just
> > > > > >>>>> scroll upwards a couple of inches.
>
> > > > > >>>>> On Aug 12, 9:56 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>>>> Hollywood,
>
> > > > > >>>>>> Why do you say this was written about a year ago?  The context
> > > > > >>>>>> throughout the letter is that Obama is already in office.  Not
> > > > that it
> > > > > >>>>>> matters, since this clearly isn't a legit letter, but I am
> > curious
> > > > why
> > > > > >>>>>> you think that.
>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Aug 12, 9:28 am, Hollywood <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>>>>> dick,
>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Hey, you forgot to mention that this "letter from Grandpa"
> > was
> > > > written
> > > > > >>>>>>> about a year or so ago, during the Bush administration. "With
> > the
> > > > > >>>>>>> stock market crashing" You understand that the DJIA is UP
> > 39.45%
> > > > over
> > > > > >>>>>>> the last 5 months, right?
>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Ol' Gramp's is pissing his pants because he's been listening
> > to
> > > > too
> > > > > >>>>>>> much conservatives talk radio. Probably just pissed at Ashley
> > for
> > > > > >>>>>>> voting for Obama. Gee, wonder who it was that spoiled little
> > > > Ashely in
> > > > > >>>>>>> the first place?
>
> > > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 11, 6:54 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> -
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Fw: Love letter from Grandpa
> > > > > >>>>>>>> To:
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  John G. is 63 years old and owns a small business. He's a
> > > > life-long
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all
> > but
> > > > > >>>>>>>> evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes
> > coming
> > > > his way,
> > > > > >>>>>>>> John assumes now that he will work to his dying day.
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  John has a granddaughter, who is Ashley a recent college
> > grad.
> > > > She
> > > > > >>>>>>>> drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions,
> > and
> > > > loves to
> > > > > >>>>>>>> go out to nightclub s and restaurants. Ashley campaigned
> > hard
> > > > for Barak
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and
> > all
> > > > other
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so
> > earful
> > > > on how
> > > > > >>>>>>>> the world is going to be a much better place now that her
> > party
> > > > is
> > > > > >>>>>>>> taking over.
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of
> > cash
> > > > and
> > > > > >>>>>>>> cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse. Like
> > she
> > > > has
> > > > > >>>>>>>> done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather
> > asking
> > > > for
> > > > > >>>>>>>> some financial help. Here is his reply:
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  Sweetheart,
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  I received your request for assistance.
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I'm sympathetic to
> > your
> > > > > >>>>>>>> financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With
> > the
> > > > election
> > > > > >>>>>>>> of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set
> > forth
> > > > a bold
> > > > > >>>>>>>> new economic plan of our own..."The Ashley Economic
> > Empowerment
> > > > Plan."
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  Let me explain...
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning
> > taxpayers.
> > > > We have
> > > > > >>>>>>>> lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had
> > the
> > > > fancier
> > > > > >>>>>>>> things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc. We have
> > worked
> > > > hard
> > > > > >>>>>>>> and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has
> > > > changed.
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Your president is raising our personal and business taxes
> > > > significantly.
> > > > > >>>>>>>> He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other
> > > > people. Do
> > > > > >>>>>>>> you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and
> > we
> > > > must cut
> > > > > >>>>>>>> back on many business and personal expenses.
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office
> > for
> > > > more
> > > > > >>>>>>>> than 23 years - the one who always gave you candy when came
> > over
> > > > to
> > > > > >>>>>>>> visit? I had to let her go last week. I can't afford to pay
> > her
> > > > salary
> > > > > >>>>>>>> and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having
> > > > employees.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer
> > phones,
> > > > take
> > > > > >>>>>>>> orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays
> > and
> > > > will lose
> > > > > >>>>>>>> even more income to the Walmart.
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  I'm also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will
> > no
> > > > longer be
> > > > > >>>>>>>> working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school
> > this
> > > > morning.
> > > > > >>>>>>>> He already knows about it and he's upset because he will
> > have to
> > > > give up
> > > > > >>>>>>>> skydiving and his yearly trip to  Greenland to survey the
> > polar
> > > > bears..
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  That's just the business side of things. Some personal
> > economic
> > > > effects
> > > > > >>>>>>>> of Obama's new taxation policies include none other than
> > you.
> > > > You know
> > > > > >>>>>>>> very well that over the years your grandmother and I have
> > given
> > > > you
> > > > > >>>>>>>> thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food,
> > housing,
> > > > > >>>>>>>> clothing, gifts, etc., etc.. But by your vote, you have
> > chosen
> > > > to help
> > > > > >>>>>>>> others -- not at your expense -- but at our expense.
>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  If you need money now sweatheart, I recommend you call
> > > > 202-456-1111.
> > > > > >>>>>>>> That is the direct phone number for the White House..
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  You yourself told me how
>
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