Holly, Then surely you don't dispute what I wrote. That a year ago, the stock market was approximately 2500 points higher than it is today, and that six, seven months ago, the stock market was about where it is today.
More importantly, your partisan point, that "Ol' Gramp's is pissing his pants because he's been listening to too much conservatives talk radio. Probably just pissed at Ashley for voting for Obama"; is typical partisan tripe. The truth is, (which can be seen and supported by just watching any news show on any cable network (with the exception of NBC, which is not a legitimate news organization anymore) is that clearly, not only is Grandpa still pissed, but Grandma, Ashley, and the majority of Americans are not amused...... On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > KIT, > > BTW, you DID notice didn't you that the link you provided agrees with > what I posted. Yes or no? > So tell me the mistruth I posted. > > On Aug 13, 10:25 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Holly, > > > > F.Y.I.: The Dow Jones Industrial is down approximately 2500 points as > > compared to a year ago. I don't know where you are getting the 39 > percent > > increase number in the past six months. It is virtually unchanged from > > January, 2009 till now. > > > > http://www.nyse.tv/dow-jones-industrial-average-history-djia.htm > > > > Typical partisan mistruths and prevaricate misleading spin by you once > > again!! > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > dick, > > > > > You believe whatever makes you happy. I'll take an almost 40% increase > > > in 5 months any day of the week. Beats the HELL out of a 40% drop. > > > > > On Aug 13, 9:26 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Must be a non-existent stock portfolio then. > > > > > > Hollywood wrote: > > > > > Sage2, > > > > > > > Well it has certainly helped MY stock portfolio. :-) > > > > > > > On Aug 12, 1:50 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Holly, > > > > > > >> It means the 39.45 % you > attribute > > > > >> to Obama means shit. The Obama administration has not helped this > > > > >> economy one IOTA. Since he took office the unemploymant went up > 3.5 > > > > >> and has not created OR saved one job. > > > > > > ********************************************************************************************************************************* > > > > > > >> On Aug 12, 1:43 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > >>> Sage2, > > > > > > >>> Ah, so you DON'T dispute the info I DID give. > > > > > > >>> On Aug 12, 11:38 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Hi Frank, > > > > > > >>>> What Holly failed to mention is that Grandpa's > 401K > > > > >>>> was in a market value of 11,000....12,000....13,000 and as high > as > > > > >>>> 14,000 points @ it's highest. He failed to mention that the > > > > >>>> unemployment rate is still @ 9.4 much higher than the Bush > years. > > > > >>>> Fannie & Freddie are still in trouble they want another 10.5 > > > billion. > > > > >>>> ( nice work Barney & Chris ). A 1.6 Trillion dollar proposed > > > > >>>> socialist Health Care Plan, a 13 trillion national debt. Twenty > five > > > > >>>> percent of home owners owe more than the value of their homes > and > > > this > > > > >>>> is expected to go up to 40 % by the end of 2010: most likely all > > > Dems > > > > >>>> who are Union members or ACORN, LaRaza types. > > > > > > ******************************************************************************************************************************** > > > > > > >>>> On Aug 12, 11:46 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> frankg, > > > > > > >>>>> Read my response to dick. I can't be repeating myself all day, > just > > > > >>>>> scroll upwards a couple of inches. > > > > > > >>>>> On Aug 12, 9:56 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> Hollywood, > > > > > > >>>>>> Why do you say this was written about a year ago? The context > > > > >>>>>> throughout the letter is that Obama is already in office. Not > > > that it > > > > >>>>>> matters, since this clearly isn't a legit letter, but I am > curious > > > why > > > > >>>>>> you think that. > > > > > > >>>>>> On Aug 12, 9:28 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> dick, > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hey, you forgot to mention that this "letter from Grandpa" > was > > > written > > > > >>>>>>> about a year or so ago, during the Bush administration. "With > the > > > > >>>>>>> stock market crashing" You understand that the DJIA is UP > 39.45% > > > over > > > > >>>>>>> the last 5 months, right? > > > > > > >>>>>>> Ol' Gramp's is pissing his pants because he's been listening > to > > > too > > > > >>>>>>> much conservatives talk radio. Probably just pissed at Ashley > for > > > > >>>>>>> voting for Obama. Gee, wonder who it was that spoiled little > > > Ashely in > > > > >>>>>>> the first place? > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 11, 6:54 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - > > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Fw: Love letter from Grandpa > > > > >>>>>>>> To: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> John G. is 63 years old and owns a small business. He's a > > > life-long > > > > >>>>>>>> Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all > but > > > > >>>>>>>> evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes > coming > > > his way, > > > > >>>>>>>> John assumes now that he will work to his dying day. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> John has a granddaughter, who is Ashley a recent college > grad. > > > She > > > > >>>>>>>> drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, > and > > > loves to > > > > >>>>>>>> go out to nightclub s and restaurants. Ashley campaigned > hard > > > for Barak > > > > >>>>>>>> Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and > all > > > other > > > > >>>>>>>> Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so > earful > > > on how > > > > >>>>>>>> the world is going to be a much better place now that her > party > > > is > > > > >>>>>>>> taking over. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of > cash > > > and > > > > >>>>>>>> cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse. Like > she > > > has > > > > >>>>>>>> done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather > asking > > > for > > > > >>>>>>>> some financial help. Here is his reply: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Sweetheart, > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I received your request for assistance. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I'm sympathetic to > your > > > > >>>>>>>> financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With > the > > > election > > > > >>>>>>>> of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set > forth > > > a bold > > > > >>>>>>>> new economic plan of our own..."The Ashley Economic > Empowerment > > > Plan." > > > > >>>>>>>> Let me explain... > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning > taxpayers. > > > We have > > > > >>>>>>>> lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had > the > > > fancier > > > > >>>>>>>> things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc. We have > worked > > > hard > > > > >>>>>>>> and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has > > > changed. > > > > >>>>>>>> Your president is raising our personal and business taxes > > > significantly. > > > > >>>>>>>> He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other > > > people. Do > > > > >>>>>>>> you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and > we > > > must cut > > > > >>>>>>>> back on many business and personal expenses. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office > for > > > more > > > > >>>>>>>> than 23 years - the one who always gave you candy when came > over > > > to > > > > >>>>>>>> visit? I had to let her go last week. I can't afford to pay > her > > > salary > > > > >>>>>>>> and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having > > > employees. > > > > >>>>>>>> Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer > phones, > > > take > > > > >>>>>>>> orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays > and > > > will lose > > > > >>>>>>>> even more income to the Walmart. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will > no > > > longer be > > > > >>>>>>>> working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school > this > > > morning. > > > > >>>>>>>> He already knows about it and he's upset because he will > have to > > > give up > > > > >>>>>>>> skydiving and his yearly trip to Greenland to survey the > polar > > > bears.. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> That's just the business side of things. Some personal > economic > > > effects > > > > >>>>>>>> of Obama's new taxation policies include none other than > you. > > > You know > > > > >>>>>>>> very well that over the years your grandmother and I have > given > > > you > > > > >>>>>>>> thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, > housing, > > > > >>>>>>>> clothing, gifts, etc., etc.. But by your vote, you have > chosen > > > to help > > > > >>>>>>>> others -- not at your expense -- but at our expense. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> If you need money now sweatheart, I recommend you call > > > 202-456-1111. > > > > >>>>>>>> That is the direct phone number for the White House.. > > > > >>>>>>>> You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican. > You > > > said Mr. > > > > >>>>>>>> Obama is going to be the People's President, and is going to > > > help every > > > > >>>>>>>> American live a better life. Based on everything you've told > me, > > > along > > > > >>>>>>>> with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I'm sure > Mr. > > > Obama > > > > >>>>>>>> will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank > > > account. > > > > >>>>>>>> Have him call me for the account number which I memorized > years > > > ago. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Perhaps you can now understand what I've been saying all my > > > life: those > > > > >>>>>>>> who vote for a president should consider the impact on the > > > nation as a > > > > >>>>>>>> whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for > > > themselves. > > > > >>>>>>>> What Obama supporters don't seem to realize is all of the > money > > > he is > > > > >>>>>>>> redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying A > mericans > > > (the > > > > >>>>>>>> so-called "less fortunate") comes from tax-paying families. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Remember how you told me, "Only the richest of the rich > will be > > > > >>>>>>>> affected"? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a > business, > > > your > > > > >>>>>>>> grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of > the > > > rich. On > > > > >>>>>>>> paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are > far > > > from it. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will > have > > > to carry > > > > >>>>>>>> more of the burden so all of America can prosper. You > understand > > > what > > > > >>>>>>>> that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive > > > people > > > > >>>>>>>> results in them having less money. Less money for > everything, > > > including > > > > >>>>>>>> granddaughters. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry. The free > lunches > > > are over. > > > > >>>>>>>> I have no money to give you now. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> So, > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
