dick, So anyone that the President does NOT ask to not run is the "Obama Candidate and NOT the candidate of the Democratic party?
On Sep 20, 8:24 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Let me explain something to you in words you might just understand. If > Zero asks Paterson not to run, then there must be another who gets his > support and thus becomes the Obama candidate. If that candidate is > Cuomo we will have a rerun of the disaster that was Mario Cuomo. Ergo > that is why we do not want an Obama candidate. Paterson is bad enough. > An Obama candidate like Deval Patrick of Mass would be infinitely worse. > > > > Hollywood wrote: > > Dick, > > > What "Obama candidate"? Didn't the President ask him to NOT run? > > Wouldn't an Obama candidate have the SUPPORT of the President? Think > > about it. > > > On Sep 20, 12:44 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> As a resident of NYC I shudder to think - look at the mess in > >> Massachusetts and that is the very model for an Obama candidate - > >> ineffectual, idiotic, delusional beyond belief and thinks he deserves to > >> be re-elected. Got elected in a state with a huge deficit and the first > >> things he does is order a new state limo, all new furniture for his > >> office to the tune of close to $100K and then hires a big staff for his > >> wife - sounds just like Bambi to me. And in NY it would be even worse - > >> more population and much bigger state. > > >> plainolamerican wrote: > > >>> can you imagine the effect of having an Obama candidate as the > >>> governor of NY? > > >>> On Sep 19, 10:35 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp > > >>>> Obama Said to Request That Paterson Drop Campaign > > >>>> * Sign in to Recommend > >>>> * Twitter > >>>> * > >>>> E-Mail <javascript:document.emailThis.submit();> > > >>>> * Send To Phone <javascript:void(0);> > >>>> * Print > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp=&p...> > > >>>> * Reprints > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>> * Share > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#>Close > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>> o Linkedin > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>> o Digg > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>> o Facebook > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>> o Mixx > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>> o MySpace > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>> o Yahoo! 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Paterson > >>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/david_a_...> > >>>> that he withdraw from the New York governor's race, fearing that Mr. > >>>> Paterson cannot recover from his dismal political standing, according to > >>>> two senior administration officials and a New York Democratic operative > >>>> with direct knowledge of the situation. > > >>>> The decision to ask Mr. Paterson to step aside was proposed by political > >>>> advisers to Mr. Obama, but approved by the president himself, one of the > >>>> administration officials said. > > >>>> "Is there concern about the situation in New York? Absolutely," the > >>>> second administration official said Saturday evening. "Has that concern > >>>> been conveyed to the governor? Yes." > > >>>> The administration officials and the Democratic operative spoke on > >>>> condition of anonymity because the discussions with the governor were > >>>> intended to be confidential. > > >>>> The president's request was conveyed to the Mr. Paterson by > >>>> Representative Gregory W. Meeks > >>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/gregory_...>, > >>>> a Queens Democrat, who has developed a strong relationship with the > >>>> Obama administration, they said. > > >>>> The move against a sitting Democratic governor represents an > >>>> extraordinary intervention into a state political race by the president, > >>>> and is a delicate one, given that Mr. Paterson is one of only two > >>>> African-American governors in the nation. > > >>>> But Mr. Obama's political team and other party leaders have grown > >>>> increasingly worried that the governor's unpopularity could drag down > >>>> Democratic members of Congress in New York, as well as the > >>>> Democratic-controlled Legislature, in next fall's election. > > >>>> Mr. Paterson and his aides did not respond to repeated requests for > >>>> comment Saturday. Mr. Paterson arrived on Long Island Saturday evening > >>>> to attend a dinner, but walked hurriedly past a reporter who tried to > >>>> ask him about the White House request. > > >>>> An aide to Mr. Meeks said the congressman could not be reached Saturday. > > >>>> "The message the White House wanted to send --- that it wants Paterson > >>>> to step aside --- was delivered," said the Democratic operative,, who > >>>> spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions were intended to > >>>> be confidential. "He is resistant." > > >>>> The general election is more than a year away, but Mr. Obama and his > >>>> political team are moving now in part because of signals from Rudolph W. > >>>> Giuliani > >>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/rudolph_...>, > >>>> the former New York City mayor, that he may run for governor > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/nyregion/25rudy.html>, according to > >>>> Democrats who have spoken with White House officials. Many Democratic > >>>> leaders believe that Mr. Giuliani's presence at the top of the > >>>> Republican ticket could spark enthusiasm among his party's voters, who > >>>> might otherwise have little desire to go to the polls. > > >>>> Leading Democrats in the state have expressed deep concern about Mr. > >>>> Paterson's ability to hold on to the office. But most have been wary of > >>>> openly suggesting he step aside. > > >>>> The White House move could give them cover to abandon Mr. Paterson and > >>>> endorse another candidate, most likely Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo > >>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/andrew_m...>, > >>>> who has been debating for months whether to take on Mr. Paterson in a > >>>> primary <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/03/nyregion/03cuomo.html>. > > >>>> Mr. Paterson, who was elevated to governor from lieutenant governor in > >>>> March 2008, in the wake of Gov. Eliot Spitzer > >>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/eliot_l_...>'s > >>>> resignation after a prostitution scandal, announced in October that he > >>>> would seek a full term > >>>> <http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E5DD1E3AF93BA35753...>. > > >>>> But in the intervening months, White House officials have watched the > >>>> deteriorating political fortunes of Mr. Paterson with growing alarm, as > >>>> his popularity plunged > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/nyregion/10poll.html> and he > >>>> committed a series of missteps that raised questions about his ability > >>>> to govern. > > >>>> In addition, the relationship between Mr. Obama and Mr. Paterson has > >>>> been shaky, dating to the governor's selection of a replacement for > >>>> Hillary Rodham Clinton > >>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/hillary_...>, > >>>> who resigned from the Senate to become secretary of state. White House > >>>> officials had received assurances from Mr. Paterson that he would not > >>>> pick Kirsten E. Gillibrand > >>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/kirsten_...>, > >>>> then a little-known Democratic congresswoman from a heavily Republican > >>>> district outside of Albany, according to a prominent Democrat who > >>>> discussed the matter with a senior White House official. > > >>>> The White House and Democratic House leaders were concerned that her > >>>> sudden departure from the House would give Republicans a prime > >>>> opportunity to reclaim the seat. Aides to the president conveyed those > >>>> concerns to the governor, according to Democrats who have discussed the > >>>> matter with Mr. Obama's aides. > > >>>> In the end, Mr. Paterson selected Ms. Gillibrand anyway > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/nyregion/24choice.html>, infuriating > >>>> White House officials and Democratic leaders in Washington. Making > >>>> matters worse, the governor also publicly snubbed Caroline Kennedy > >>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/caroline...>, > >>>> a close personal friend and ally of Mr. Obama's, who announced in > >>>> December her wish to be chosen as Mrs. Clinton's replacement, but then > >>>> withdrew her name from consideration > >>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/nyregion/22caroline.html> in January, > >>>> citing personal reasons. > > >>>> The concerns of Obama aides deepened last > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
