dick, Convenient pat reply. Keeps you from responding to questions and/or rationally explaining the logic behind any of your statements. Everyone is simply too obtuse to comprehend your soaring intellect.
On Sep 20, 9:03 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > As I said in the other missive, obtuseness is you today. > > > > Hollywood wrote: > > dick, > > > So anyone that the President does NOT ask to not run is the "Obama > > Candidate and NOT the candidate of the Democratic party? > > > On Sep 20, 8:24 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Let me explain something to you in words you might just understand. If > >> Zero asks Paterson not to run, then there must be another who gets his > >> support and thus becomes the Obama candidate. If that candidate is > >> Cuomo we will have a rerun of the disaster that was Mario Cuomo. Ergo > >> that is why we do not want an Obama candidate. Paterson is bad enough. > >> An Obama candidate like Deval Patrick of Mass would be infinitely worse. > > >> Hollywood wrote: > > >>> Dick, > > >>> What "Obama candidate"? Didn't the President ask him to NOT run? > >>> Wouldn't an Obama candidate have the SUPPORT of the President? Think > >>> about it. > > >>> On Sep 20, 12:44 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> As a resident of NYC I shudder to think - look at the mess in > >>>> Massachusetts and that is the very model for an Obama candidate - > >>>> ineffectual, idiotic, delusional beyond belief and thinks he deserves to > >>>> be re-elected. Got elected in a state with a huge deficit and the first > >>>> things he does is order a new state limo, all new furniture for his > >>>> office to the tune of close to $100K and then hires a big staff for his > >>>> wife - sounds just like Bambi to me. And in NY it would be even worse - > >>>> more population and much bigger state. > > >>>> plainolamerican wrote: > > >>>>> can you imagine the effect of having an Obama candidate as the > >>>>> governor of NY? > > >>>>> On Sep 19, 10:35 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp > > >>>>>> Obama Said to Request That Paterson Drop Campaign > > >>>>>> * Sign in to Recommend > >>>>>> * Twitter > >>>>>> * > >>>>>> E-Mail <javascript:document.emailThis.submit();> > > >>>>>> * Send To Phone <javascript:void(0);> > >>>>>> * Print > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp=&p...> > > >>>>>> * Reprints > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>>>> * Share > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#>Close > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>>>> o Linkedin > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>>>> o Digg > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>>>> o Facebook > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>>>> o Mixx > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>>>> o MySpace > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> > >>>>>> o Yahoo! 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Paterson > >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/david_a_...> > >>>>>> that he withdraw from the New York governor's race, fearing that Mr. > >>>>>> Paterson cannot recover from his dismal political standing, according > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> two senior administration officials and a New York Democratic operative > >>>>>> with direct knowledge of the situation. > > >>>>>> The decision to ask Mr. Paterson to step aside was proposed by > >>>>>> political > >>>>>> advisers to Mr. Obama, but approved by the president himself, one of > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> administration officials said. > > >>>>>> "Is there concern about the situation in New York? Absolutely," the > >>>>>> second administration official said Saturday evening. "Has that concern > >>>>>> been conveyed to the governor? Yes." > > >>>>>> The administration officials and the Democratic operative spoke on > >>>>>> condition of anonymity because the discussions with the governor were > >>>>>> intended to be confidential. > > >>>>>> The president's request was conveyed to the Mr. Paterson by > >>>>>> Representative Gregory W. Meeks > >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/gregory_...>, > >>>>>> a Queens Democrat, who has developed a strong relationship with the > >>>>>> Obama administration, they said. > > >>>>>> The move against a sitting Democratic governor represents an > >>>>>> extraordinary intervention into a state political race by the > >>>>>> president, > >>>>>> and is a delicate one, given that Mr. Paterson is one of only two > >>>>>> African-American governors in the nation. > > >>>>>> But Mr. Obama's political team and other party leaders have grown > >>>>>> increasingly worried that the governor's unpopularity could drag down > >>>>>> Democratic members of Congress in New York, as well as the > >>>>>> Democratic-controlled Legislature, in next fall's election. > > >>>>>> Mr. Paterson and his aides did not respond to repeated requests for > >>>>>> comment Saturday. Mr. Paterson arrived on Long Island Saturday evening > >>>>>> to attend a dinner, but walked hurriedly past a reporter who tried to > >>>>>> ask him about the White House request. > > >>>>>> An aide to Mr. Meeks said the congressman could not be reached > >>>>>> Saturday. > > >>>>>> "The message the White House wanted to send --- that it wants Paterson > >>>>>> to step aside --- was delivered," said the Democratic operative,, who > >>>>>> spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions were intended > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> be confidential. "He is resistant." > > >>>>>> The general election is more than a year away, but Mr. Obama and his > >>>>>> political team are moving now in part because of signals from Rudolph > >>>>>> W. > >>>>>> Giuliani > >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/rudolph_...>, > >>>>>> the former New York City mayor, that he may run for governor > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/nyregion/25rudy.html>, according to > >>>>>> Democrats who have spoken with White House officials. Many Democratic > >>>>>> leaders believe that Mr. Giuliani's presence at the top of the > >>>>>> Republican ticket could spark enthusiasm among his party's voters, who > >>>>>> might otherwise have little desire to go to the polls. > > >>>>>> Leading Democrats in the state have expressed deep concern about Mr. > >>>>>> Paterson's ability to hold on to the office. But most have been wary of > >>>>>> openly suggesting he step aside. > > >>>>>> The White House move could give them cover to abandon Mr. Paterson and > >>>>>> endorse another candidate, most likely Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo > >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/andrew_m...>, > >>>>>> who has been debating for months whether to take on Mr. Paterson in a > >>>>>> primary <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/03/nyregion/03cuomo.html>. > > >>>>>> Mr. Paterson, who was elevated to governor from lieutenant governor in > >>>>>> March 2008, in the wake of Gov. Eliot Spitzer > >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/eliot_l_...>'s > >>>>>> resignation after a prostitution scandal, announced in October that he > >>>>>> would seek a full term > >>>>>> <http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E5DD1E3AF93BA35753...>. > > >>>>>> But in the intervening months, White House officials have watched the > >>>>>> deteriorating political fortunes of Mr. Paterson with growing alarm, as > >>>>>> his popularity plunged > >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/nyregion/10poll.html> and he > >>>>>> committed a series of missteps that raised questions about his ability > >>>>>> to govern. > > >>>>>> In addition, the relationship between Mr. Obama and Mr. Paterson has > >>>>>> been shaky, dating to the governor's selection of a replacement for > >>>>>> Hillary Rodham Clinton > >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/hillary_...>, > >>>>>> who resigned from the Senate to become secretary of state. White House > >>>>>> officials had received assurances from Mr. Paterson that he would not > >>>>>> pick Kirsten E. Gillibrand > >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/kirsten_...>, > >>>>>> then a little-known Democratic congresswoman from a heavily Republican > >>>>>> district outside of Albany, according to a prominent Democrat who > >>>>>> discussed the matter with a senior White House official. > > >>>>>> The White House and Democratic House leaders were concerned that her > >>>>>> sudden departure from the House would give Republicans a prime > >>>>>> opportunity to reclaim the seat. Aides to the president conveyed those > >>>>>> concerns to the governor, according to Democrats who have discussed the > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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