As I said in the other missive, obtuseness is you today. Hollywood wrote: > dick, > > So anyone that the President does NOT ask to not run is the "Obama > Candidate and NOT the candidate of the Democratic party? > > On Sep 20, 8:24 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let me explain something to you in words you might just understand. If >> Zero asks Paterson not to run, then there must be another who gets his >> support and thus becomes the Obama candidate. If that candidate is >> Cuomo we will have a rerun of the disaster that was Mario Cuomo. Ergo >> that is why we do not want an Obama candidate. Paterson is bad enough. >> An Obama candidate like Deval Patrick of Mass would be infinitely worse. >> >> >> >> Hollywood wrote: >> >>> Dick, >>> >>> What "Obama candidate"? Didn't the President ask him to NOT run? >>> Wouldn't an Obama candidate have the SUPPORT of the President? Think >>> about it. >>> >>> On Sep 20, 12:44 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> As a resident of NYC I shudder to think - look at the mess in >>>> Massachusetts and that is the very model for an Obama candidate - >>>> ineffectual, idiotic, delusional beyond belief and thinks he deserves to >>>> be re-elected. Got elected in a state with a huge deficit and the first >>>> things he does is order a new state limo, all new furniture for his >>>> office to the tune of close to $100K and then hires a big staff for his >>>> wife - sounds just like Bambi to me. And in NY it would be even worse - >>>> more population and much bigger state. >>>> >>>> plainolamerican wrote: >>>> >>>>> can you imagine the effect of having an Obama candidate as the >>>>> governor of NY? >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 19, 10:35 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp >>>>>> >>>>>> Obama Said to Request That Paterson Drop Campaign >>>>>> >>>>>> * Sign in to Recommend >>>>>> * Twitter >>>>>> * >>>>>> E-Mail <javascript:document.emailThis.submit();> >>>>>> >>>>>> * Send To Phone <javascript:void(0);> >>>>>> * Print >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp=&p...> >>>>>> >>>>>> * Reprints >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> >>>>>> * Share >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#>Close >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> >>>>>> o Linkedin >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> >>>>>> o Digg >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> >>>>>> o Facebook >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> >>>>>> o Mixx >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> >>>>>> o MySpace >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp#> >>>>>> o Yahoo! 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Paterson >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/david_a_...> >>>>>> that he withdraw from the New York governor's race, fearing that Mr. >>>>>> Paterson cannot recover from his dismal political standing, according to >>>>>> two senior administration officials and a New York Democratic operative >>>>>> with direct knowledge of the situation. >>>>>> >>>>>> The decision to ask Mr. Paterson to step aside was proposed by political >>>>>> advisers to Mr. Obama, but approved by the president himself, one of the >>>>>> administration officials said. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Is there concern about the situation in New York? Absolutely," the >>>>>> second administration official said Saturday evening. "Has that concern >>>>>> been conveyed to the governor? Yes." >>>>>> >>>>>> The administration officials and the Democratic operative spoke on >>>>>> condition of anonymity because the discussions with the governor were >>>>>> intended to be confidential. >>>>>> >>>>>> The president's request was conveyed to the Mr. Paterson by >>>>>> Representative Gregory W. Meeks >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/gregory_...>, >>>>>> a Queens Democrat, who has developed a strong relationship with the >>>>>> Obama administration, they said. >>>>>> >>>>>> The move against a sitting Democratic governor represents an >>>>>> extraordinary intervention into a state political race by the president, >>>>>> and is a delicate one, given that Mr. Paterson is one of only two >>>>>> African-American governors in the nation. >>>>>> >>>>>> But Mr. Obama's political team and other party leaders have grown >>>>>> increasingly worried that the governor's unpopularity could drag down >>>>>> Democratic members of Congress in New York, as well as the >>>>>> Democratic-controlled Legislature, in next fall's election. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mr. Paterson and his aides did not respond to repeated requests for >>>>>> comment Saturday. Mr. Paterson arrived on Long Island Saturday evening >>>>>> to attend a dinner, but walked hurriedly past a reporter who tried to >>>>>> ask him about the White House request. >>>>>> >>>>>> An aide to Mr. Meeks said the congressman could not be reached Saturday. >>>>>> >>>>>> "The message the White House wanted to send --- that it wants Paterson >>>>>> to step aside --- was delivered," said the Democratic operative,, who >>>>>> spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions were intended to >>>>>> be confidential. "He is resistant." >>>>>> >>>>>> The general election is more than a year away, but Mr. Obama and his >>>>>> political team are moving now in part because of signals from Rudolph W. >>>>>> Giuliani >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/rudolph_...>, >>>>>> the former New York City mayor, that he may run for governor >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/nyregion/25rudy.html>, according to >>>>>> Democrats who have spoken with White House officials. Many Democratic >>>>>> leaders believe that Mr. Giuliani's presence at the top of the >>>>>> Republican ticket could spark enthusiasm among his party's voters, who >>>>>> might otherwise have little desire to go to the polls. >>>>>> >>>>>> Leading Democrats in the state have expressed deep concern about Mr. >>>>>> Paterson's ability to hold on to the office. But most have been wary of >>>>>> openly suggesting he step aside. >>>>>> >>>>>> The White House move could give them cover to abandon Mr. Paterson and >>>>>> endorse another candidate, most likely Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/andrew_m...>, >>>>>> who has been debating for months whether to take on Mr. Paterson in a >>>>>> primary <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/03/nyregion/03cuomo.html>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mr. Paterson, who was elevated to governor from lieutenant governor in >>>>>> March 2008, in the wake of Gov. Eliot Spitzer >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/eliot_l_...>'s >>>>>> resignation after a prostitution scandal, announced in October that he >>>>>> would seek a full term >>>>>> <http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E5DD1E3AF93BA35753...>. >>>>>> >>>>>> But in the intervening months, White House officials have watched the >>>>>> deteriorating political fortunes of Mr. Paterson with growing alarm, as >>>>>> his popularity plunged >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/nyregion/10poll.html> and he >>>>>> committed a series of missteps that raised questions about his ability >>>>>> to govern. >>>>>> >>>>>> In addition, the relationship between Mr. Obama and Mr. Paterson has >>>>>> been shaky, dating to the governor's selection of a replacement for >>>>>> Hillary Rodham Clinton >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/hillary_...>, >>>>>> who resigned from the Senate to become secretary of state. White House >>>>>> officials had received assurances from Mr. Paterson that he would not >>>>>> pick Kirsten E. Gillibrand >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/kirsten_...>, >>>>>> then a little-known Democratic congresswoman from a heavily Republican >>>>>> district outside of Albany, according to a prominent Democrat who >>>>>> discussed the matter with a senior White House official. >>>>>> >>>>>> The White House and Democratic House leaders were concerned that her >>>>>> sudden departure from the House would give Republicans a prime >>>>>> opportunity to reclaim the seat. Aides to the president conveyed those >>>>>> concerns to the governor, according to Democrats who have discussed the >>>>>> matter with Mr. Obama's aides. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the end, Mr. Paterson selected Ms. Gillibrand anyway >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/nyregion/24choice.html>, infuriating >>>>>> White House officials and Democratic leaders in Washington. Making >>>>>> matters worse, the governor also publicly snubbed Caroline Kennedy >>>>>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/caroline...>, >>>>>> a close personal friend and ally of Mr. Obama's, who announced in >>>>>> December her wish to be chosen as Mrs. Clinton's replacement, but then >>>>>> withdrew her name from consideration >>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/nyregion/22caroline.html> in January, >>>>>> citing personal reasons. >>>>>> >>>>>> The concerns of Obama aides deepened last >>>>>> >> ... >> >> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - >> > > > >
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