The oath of allegiance is: "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
________________________________ From: Mustang <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 6:41:14 PM Subject: Re: Why no military draft? If you become a naturalized American citizen, what do you care what your FORMER homeland wants? ________________________________ From: THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> To: PoliticalForum <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 5:46:15 PM Subject: Re: Why no military draft? Mustang, I am one of those "Wretched People". What you do is leave us alone. There are a LOT of nations who do not allow their citizens to renounce as the US does (and demands of those whose home countries allow for it). What MORE can you do ?? On Nov 1, 7:09 pm, Mustang <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know what we do about the "wretched people" who come to our > shores, become U.S. citizens, and still keep their citizenship to their > former land where they don't want to live? What about all the middle > Easterners who are now US citizens? > > ________________________________ > From: plainolamerican <[email protected]> > To: PoliticalForum <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 2:43:01 PM > Subject: Why no military draft? > > because some people know how to say no > > Today, non-citizen males of appropriate age in the United States, who > are permanent residents (holders of Green Cards), seasonal > agricultural workers, refugees, parolees, asylees, and even illegal > immigrants, are required to register with the Selective Service System. > [78] Refusal to do so is grounds for denial of a future citizenship > application. In addition, immigrants who seek to naturalize as > citizens must, as part of the Oath of Citizenship, swear to the > following: > > ... that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required > by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed > forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will > perform work of national importance under civilian direction when > required by the law;[79] > > The USCIS website also states however: > > In some cases, USCIS allows the oath to be taken without the clauses: > ". . .that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when > required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed > Forces of the United States when required by law...." > > Non-citizens who serve in the United States military enjoy several > naturalization benefits which are unavailable to non-citizens who do > not, such as a waiver of application fees.[80] Permanent resident > aliens who die while serving in the U.S. Armed Forces may be > naturalized posthumously, which may be beneficial to surviving family > members.[81] > ---------- > US Presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama said on September 13th > that his job as president would include demanding that the American > people recognize an “obligation” for military service. “If we are > going into war, then all of us go, not just some,” Obama declared at > an evening forum on national service at Columbia University in New > York City. > ---- > Army recruiters were told to recruit among gang members to fill out > numbers of troops in the Iraq War. > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/200... > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07recruit.html?partner=r... > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/29/eveningnews/main3108597.shtml > --- > > Sep. 15, 2009 > E.B. SOLOMONT, Jerusalem Post Correspondent in New York , THE > JERUSALEM POST > > Two Israeli women who are refusing mandatory army duty have kicked off > a North American speaking tour and plan to take their story to more > than a dozen college campuses in the next month. > > Hoping to highlight their opposition to Israel's policies toward > Palestinians, Maya Wind and Netta Mishly, both 19, will appeal to > their American counterparts during their "Why We Refuse" tour from > September 12 to October 10. Both women describe themselves as > Shministim, a group of high school seniors who refuse to serve in the > IDF. > > "We believe it is important to spread information about the Israeli > occupation and about the movements that work against it," stated Wind, > who said that she was detained for 40 days because of her refusal to > serve in the IDF. She was released in March. "We hope to empower > people our age to take responsibility by taking a more active role in > the resistance movements," she said. > > Their month long tour is being organized by the Jewish Voice for > Peace. According to their itinerary, the young women will visit more > than a dozen schools in California, New York and Washington DC, > starting with the University of California, Hastings on Monday and > finishing with the University of Maryland on October 8. They will make > stops at Cornell, Columbia, New York University, Brown, Brandeis and > other schools on the way. > > "There's a lot of interest outside of Israel to understand what's > happening inside, how different people express their opposition to > what's happening," said Sydney Levy, the campaigns director of Jewish > Voice for Peace. Last year, the organization collected tens of > thousands of letters from North American Jews who supported the > Shministim, calling their detention a violation of human rights and > international law. > > "When you speak with them, you get a sense of what is going on there > from an Israeli point of view," Levy said. > > But others said the women's perceived credibility was precisely why > their campaign could have dangerous ramifications. > > "I definitely do not agree with what they're trying to do because I > think they're misguided," said Dani Klein, the North America campus > director for StandWithUs, which advocates for Israel on campuses. > Klein said if the campaign gains traction, it could backfire by > further empowering anti-Israel students. > > "When they see Israelis come out against their own country or their > own army, in this instance, it gives those who want to be anti-Israel > the fodder to do it," he said. > > The two young women, he said, could inadvertently educate people to > hate Israel. > > He compared their campaign to Breaking the Silence, a group of former > Israeli soldiers who openly criticized Israel's treatment of > Palestinians. "I definitely understand that Israelis have the right > not to agree with their government. That's fine," Klein said. "Every > citizen in a democracy has that right. But you take that up in your > country. Once you take that abroad, what does that gain you?" > > So far, it is unclear what kind of reception Wind and Mishly will > receive during their tour. Levy said demand to hear them speak was > high and that time constraints forced him to turn down several > speaking engagements on their behalf. > > Indeed, campus observers said that political events of the past year - > including Operation Cast Lead and the second Durban conference - > fueled anti-Israel rhetoric that they expect to continue. > > "Last year sort of motivated Israel's detractors to be more vocal and > do more programs," said Lawrence Muscant, deputy director of The David > Project. "My feeling is we're going to see the same thing carry over > into this semester." > > Like Klein, Muscant expressed concern about the campaign, based on > knowledge of similar ones in recent years. > > "On the one hand, if it were inside Israel, they're talking about > internal Israeli policies. When they speak to the outside world, it > often gets lost in translation and it plays into the hands of those > who delegitimize the State of Israel and question its right to exist, > even if that's not their goal," he said. > > "Whether this group prescribes to this idea or not, I believe there > will be people who use their message to further their own agenda." > ----http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eLrJMb6wpk&feature=related > ---- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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