The oath of allegiance is: "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign ... --- they simply lie it's why they can't be trusted
That blanket statement is pure bullshit and shows an arrogance born of unintelligent ignorance. On 11/1/09, Malclom Little <[email protected]> wrote: > We normally just leave them alone until they commit a crime. Then we > sometime deport them or their families. Rarely do we ever prosecute them > like a natural born US citizen. We get the book, throw in prison and > forgotten about. Not very fair. > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Mustang <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Does anyone know what we do about the "wretched people" who come to our > shores, become U.S. citizens, and still keep their citizenship to their > former land where they don't want to live? What about all the middle > Easterners who are now US citizens? >> >> ________________________________ >> From: plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> To: PoliticalForum <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 2:43:01 PM >> Subject: Why no military draft? >> >> >> because some people know how to say no >> >> Today, non-citizen males of appropriate age in the United States, who >> are permanent residents (holders of Green Cards), seasonal >> agricultural workers, refugees, parolees, asylees, and even illegal >> immigrants, are required to register with the Selective Service System. >> [78] Refusal to do so is grounds for denial of a future citizenship >> application. In addition, immigrants who seek to naturalize as >> citizens must, as part of the Oath of Citizenship, swear to the >> following: >> >> ... that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required >> by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed >> forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will >> perform work of national importance under civilian direction when >> required by the law;[79] >> >> The USCIS website also states however: >> >> In some cases, USCIS allows the oath to be taken without the clauses: >> ". . .that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when >> required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed >> Forces of the United States when required by law...." >> >> Non-citizens who serve in the United States military enjoy several >> naturalization benefits which are unavailable to non-citizens who do >> not, such as a waiver of application fees.[80] Permanent resident >> aliens who die while serving in the U.S. Armed Forces may be >> naturalized posthumously, which may be beneficial to surviving family >> members.[81] >> ---------- >> US Presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama said on September 13th >> that his job as president would include demanding that the American >> people recognize an “obligation” for military service. “If we are >> going into war, then all of us go, not just some,” Obama declared at >> an evening forum on national service at Columbia University in New >> York City. >> ---- >> Army recruiters were told to recruit among gang members to fill out >> numbers of troops in the Iraq War. >> >> > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/10/01/ING42LCIGK1.DTL >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07recruit.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss >> >> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/29/eveningnews/main3108597.shtml >> --- >> >> Sep. 15, 2009 >> E.B. SOLOMONT, Jerusalem Post Correspondent in New York , THE >> JERUSALEM POST >> >> Two Israeli women who are refusing mandatory army duty have kicked off >> a North American speaking tour and plan to take their story to more >> than a dozen college campuses in the next month. >> >> Hoping to highlight their opposition to Israel's policies toward >> Palestinians, Maya Wind and Netta Mishly, both 19, will appeal to >> their American counterparts during their "Why We Refuse" tour from >> September 12 to October 10. Both women describe themselves as >> Shministim, a group of high school seniors who refuse to serve in the >> IDF. >> >> "We believe it is important to spread information about the Israeli >> occupation and about the movements that work against it," stated Wind, >> who said that she was detained for 40 days because of her refusal to >> serve in the IDF. She was released in March. "We hope to empower >> people our age to take responsibility by taking a more active role in >> the resistance movements," she said. >> >> Their month long tour is being organized by the Jewish Voice for >> Peace. According to their itinerary, the young women will visit more >> than a dozen schools in California, New York and Washington DC, >> starting with the University of California, Hastings on Monday and >> finishing with the University of Maryland on October 8. They will make >> stops at Cornell, Columbia, New York University, Brown, Brandeis and >> other schools on the way. >> >> "There's a lot of interest outside of Israel to understand what's >> happening inside, how different people express their opposition to >> what's happening," said Sydney Levy, the campaigns director of Jewish >> Voice for Peace. Last year, the organization collected tens of >> thousands of letters from North American Jews who supported the >> Shministim, calling their detention a violation of human rights and >> international law. >> >> "When you speak with them, you get a sense of what is going on there >> from an Israeli point of view," Levy said. >> >> But others said the women's perceived credibility was precisely why >> their campaign could have dangerous ramifications. >> >> "I definitely do not agree with what they're trying to do because I >> think they're misguided," said Dani Klein, the North America campus >> director for StandWithUs, which advocates for Israel on campuses. >> Klein said if the campaign gains traction, it could backfire by >> further empowering anti-Israel students. >> >> "When they see Israelis come out against their own country or their >> own army, in this instance, it gives those who want to be anti-Israel >> the fodder to do it," he said. >> >> The two young women, he said, could inadvertently educate people to >> hate Israel. >> >> He compared their campaign to Breaking the Silence, a group of former >> Israeli soldiers who openly criticized Israel's treatment of >> Palestinians. "I definitely understand that Israelis have the right >> not to agree with their government. That's fine," Klein said. "Every >> citizen in a democracy has that right. But you take that up in your >> country. Once you take that abroad, what does that gain you?" >> >> So far, it is unclear what kind of reception Wind and Mishly will >> receive during their tour. Levy said demand to hear them speak was >> high and that time constraints forced him to turn down several >> speaking engagements on their behalf. >> >> Indeed, campus observers said that political events of the past year - >> including Operation Cast Lead and the second Durban conference - >> fueled anti-Israel rhetoric that they expect to continue. >> >> "Last year sort of motivated Israel's detractors to be more vocal and >> do more programs," said Lawrence Muscant, deputy director of The David >> Project. "My feeling is we're going to see the same thing carry over >> into this semester." >> >> Like Klein, Muscant expressed concern about the campaign, based on >> knowledge of similar ones in recent years. >> >> "On the one hand, if it were inside Israel, they're talking about >> internal Israeli policies. When they speak to the outside world, it >> often gets lost in translation and it plays into the hands of those >> who delegitimize the State of Israel and question its right to exist, >> even if that's not their goal," he said. >> >> "Whether this group prescribes to this idea or not, I believe there >> will be people who use their message to further their own agenda." >> ---- >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eLrJMb6wpk&feature=related >> ---- >> >> >> > > > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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