He was under orders from Bin laden. If you can not grasp the fact that the man who was behind the 9/11 attack after 8 years has still not been brought to justice and that when we had him we let him get away makes him a hero to our enemies as oppose to a Martyr who was caught and executed for his crimes.
Then you do not truly comprehend the extent of the Fuck up. You are in the same camp as those who did not see the economic collapse in the fall of 2008. The obvious is not obvious until it is too late! On Dec 1, 12:05 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > "Worst" than what? Catching him? Did ya think of that yourself or did > ya have help? LOL! We are about to try a man, Khalid Sheik Mohammad, > who master minded 9/11. Do you think he couldn't or wouldn't have done > it unless bin Laden existed? He has committed many other terrorist > acts and he is not alone. I know you have a hysterical obsession to > blame Bush for all ills, but asserting that getting bin Laden was the > key to victory in the war on terrorism is only fooling yourself. It > ain't that easy. > > On Dec 1, 11:54 am, VT Sean Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > NOT catching him was even worst. > > > On Dec 1, 11:52 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You're a moron, VT. Do you really think the scree you post shows any > > > real, cogent insight at all. > > > > >to capture or kill Bin Laden, that was the moment that a swift and > > > >long lasting victory against terrorism was forever lost. > > > > Really? THAT was "the moment?" Are you really dog shit stupid enough > > > to believe that killing Bin Laden, then or now, will destroy Islamic > > > terrorism? It is just as likely to elevate Bin Laden to martyr status > > > and INSPIRE MORE terrorism, in his name. Bin Laden should be brought > > > to justice (bound and set on fire) for what he did, but it is > > > childishly naive to think it will bring and end, or even curtail, > > > terrorism, in and of itself. > > > > But keep on trying to make excuses for Obama by pointing out that he > > > is so intellectually weak and craven that he can do little more than > > > look back and blame previous administrations for his problems. That IS > > > why you voted for him, isn't it? > > > > On Dec 1, 8:31 am, VT Sean Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The Afghan people deserve a real chance at Peace, > > > > that is why I support President Obama and the Troop increase. > > > > > Sean Lewis > > > > December 1, 2009 > > > > > The moment Rumsfeld denied the Military Generals request to > > > > send addition troops into Tora Bora to capture or kill > > > > Bin Laden, that was the moment that a swift and > > > > long lasting victory against terrorism was forever lost. > > > > > We have been fighting a mismanaged war of attrition > > > > and will ever since that moment. > > > > > The will of Al-Qaeda would have been crushed if > > > > Bin Laden had been quickly brought to justice. The > > > > exact opposite occurred when Bin laden was allowed to > > > > escape. It not only allowed Al-Qaeda to re-constitute > > > > itself but also energized multiple terrorist organizations > > > > through out the world. > > > > > These organizations now knew that not only could they > > > > strike at America, but they could also do so and live to > > > > reap the benefits of such a successful attack. > > > > > Had the US actually completed the task of capturing or > > > > killing Bin Laden the post war Afghanistan theater of > > > > operations would have been one of reconstruction not > > > > continued warfare. > > > > > Unfortunately this is not what occurred. > > > > > Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda found sanctuary in Pakistan > > > > and reestablished itself as a nebulous enemy with > > > > no central point to attack and thus be able to eradicate > > > > it. Such a swift and quick victory will never be available again. > > > > > In fact the ability to win militarily may no longer be an option. > > > > > This option was squandered by Rumsfeld, time, > > > > constant war, incompetence, torture and no clear plan or > > > > strategy have turned the population in Afghanistan into > > > > angry participants in a war not of their choosing. > > > > > What President Obama may be trying to do is to > > > > make an untenable situation at least salvageable. > > > > > To do this he is willing to do what the Bush Administration > > > > under Rumsfeld failed to done. > > > > > Fight the war the correct way with a clear strategy and > > > > exit. > > > > > Simply put, for 8 years the war was not fought to attain > > > > a long term victory, but merely to win in the short term. > > > > These are not the same things as time has clearly proven. > > > > > President Obama wants to try to correct a monumental > > > > mistake. To TRULY stabilize the region so that the population > > > > has a real opportunity to establish their own government > > > > that may be able to withstand the influence of both the > > > > Taliban and Al-Qaeda. > > > > > America had no business in trying to establish a US > > > > style democracy in another Country. This is a recipe > > > > for certain failure. > > > > > It is one thing to free a people from tyranny, but they will > > > > quickly reject their rescuers if they are merely shackled > > > > to another form of forced governance. > > > > > This is exactly what the Bush Administration did, they > > > > merely changed one form of forced governance for > > > > another, neither of which were the actual will of > > > > the Afghan people. > > > > > The best President Obama can hope for after 8 years > > > > of utter incompetent Presidential oversight in the > > > > execution of military action in Afghanistan, is a country that > > > > can remain stable and not once again come under the influence > > > > of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. > > > > > It is a long shot, but that doesn't mean the Afghan people > > > > do not deserve the opportunity to actually have the ability > > > > for real reform in a safe and stable environment that is > > > > created by overwhelming military force, securing the peace. > > > > >http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/1/81844/7221?new=true -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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