SEC. 1233. VOLUNTARY ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION. ...`(B) An explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibilities of a health care proxy and of the continuum of end-of- life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and supports that are available under this title. `(C) An explanation by the practitioner of physician orders regarding life sustaining treatment or similar orders, in States where such orders or similar orders exist.... ...
...(c) Payment- Section 1848(j)(3) of such Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w-4(j) (3)) is amended by inserting `(2)(FF),' after `(2)(EE),'... (j)(3) Physicians’ services The term “physicians’ services” includes items and services described in paragraphs (1), (2)(A), (2)(D), (2)(G), (2)(P) (with respect to services described in subparagraphs (A) and (C) of section 1395x (oo) (2) of this title), (2)(R) (with respect to services described in subparagraphs (B), (C), and (D) of section 1395x (pp)(1) of this title), (2)(S), (2)(W), (2)(AA), (3), (4), (13), (14) (with respect to services described in section 1395x (nn)(2) of this title), and (15) of section 1395x (s) of this title (other than clinical diagnostic laboratory tests and, except for purposes of subsections (a)(3), (g), and (h) of this section [4] such other items and services as the Secretary may specify). http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00001395---w004-.html § 1395. Prohibition against any Federal interference Nothing in this subchapter shall be construed to authorize any Federal officer or employee to exercise any supervision or control over the practice of medicine or the manner in which medical services are provided, or over the selection, tenure, or compensation of any officer or employee of any institution, agency, or person providing health services; or to exercise any supervision or control over the administration or operation of any such institution, agency, or person. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00001395----000-.html http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sup_01_42_10_7_20_XVIII.html palliative care - to ease symptoms without curing the underlying disease. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/palliate hospice - a facility or program designed to provide a caring environment for meeting the physical and emotional needs of the terminally ill. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hospice In order to get to the House version of this bill - 1. click on this link http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.111hr3962 2. Click on the link that says 'Text of Legislation' 3. Click on the link that says 'H.R.3962.EH' 4. Click on the link about one-third the way down the page that says 'SEC. 1233. VOLUNTARY ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION.' And here is the link to the Senate version of this bill - 1. click on this link http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.111hr3962 2. Click on the link that says 'Text of Legislation' 3. Click on the link that says 'H.R.3962.PCS' 4. Click on the link about one-third the way down the page that says 'SEC. 1233. VOLUNTARY ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION.' ----------------------------------------------------------------- Quoted from another forum about this same topic - Golem replied - he or she would feel pressured to save the government money by dying a little sooner than he or she otherwise would Quote ONLY the part of the bill where there is such pressure. Dave replied - Pressure to keep the cost of health care down? That's not in the Health Care bill, it's in the Congressional Budget Office report of the Health Care bill. Provisions Affecting Medicare, Medicaid, and Other Programs Other components of H.R. 3962 would alter spending for Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal health programs. The bill would make numerous changes to payment rates and payment rules in those programs (the budgetary effects of which are summarized in Table 1 and detailed in Table 3). In total, CBO estimates that enacting those provisions would reduce direct spending by about $426 billion over the 2010–2019 period. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10688/hr3962Rangel.pdf Golem replied - That's all I needed to know... And since that "pressure" is how your original post defines "Death Panels", you have admitted that they are not in the Health Care Bill. End of story... Dave replied - You wish, Golem. Since Golem cannot put 1 + 1 together, allow me to do it for him. 1. This Government Run Health Care plan has a budget. (I have shown this in my reply, which is located 2 replies up from this one on Dec 27 2009 at 10:19pm) 2. In order to keep the Government Run Health Care plan under this budget, cost savings must be implemented. (I have shown this in my original post in this thread, and in my reply located 2 replies up on Dec 27 2009 at 10:19pm) Based on 1. and 2. the result is 3. 3. In order to keep costs down in the Government Run Health Care bill, 'Death Panels' will try to talk the elderly, and other costly patients, into VOLUNTARILY rejecting costly treatments, in order to keep Government Run Health Care under budget. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
