Quoted from another forum about this same topic - Golem replied - he or she would feel pressured to save the government money by dying a little sooner than he or she otherwise would Quote ONLY the part of the bill where there is such pressure.
Dave replied - Pressure to keep the cost of health care down? That's not in the Health Care bill, it's in the Congressional Budget Office report of the Health Care bill. Provisions Affecting Medicare, Medicaid, and Other Programs Other components of H.R. 3962 would alter spending for Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal health programs. The bill would make numerous changes to payment rates and payment rules in those programs (the budgetary effects of which are summarized in Table 1 and detailed in Table 3). In total, CBO estimates that enacting those provisions would reduce direct spending by about $426 billion over the 2010–2019 period. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10688/hr3962Rangel.pdf Golem replied - That's all I needed to know... And since that "pressure" is how your original post defines "Death Panels", you have admitted that they are not in the Health Care Bill. End of story... Dave replied - You wish, Golem. Since Golem cannot put 1 + 1 together, allow me to do it for him. 1. This Government Run Health Care plan has a budget. (I have shown this in this reply) 2. In order to keep the Government Run Health Care plan under this budget, cost savings must be implemented. (I have shown this in my original post in this thread, and in this reply) Based on 1. and 2. the result is 3. 3. In order to keep costs down in the Government Run Health Care bill, 'Death Panels' will try to talk the elderly, and other costly patients, into VOLUNTARILY rejecting costly treatments, in order to keep Government Run Health Care under budget. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
