KIT,

Fine, you want to pretend your stupid be my guest. You added the DOT
and other agencies to the subject. You said they were not needed and
complained about ineffeciency and, judging from your ranting about
anything having to do with socialism,  the implication was because
those agencies were socialist and anything socialist was doomed to be
a failure.
Now, if those agencies were gone tomorrow who or what would perform
their duties/functions and why would their doing it NOT be socialism?

You know god-damn good and well that I'm a recovering alcoholic/addict
with 24 plus years clean. I have not yet stooped to person insults to
you.





On Mar 5, 8:20 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Holly,
>
> I realize that you are a little slow, as most liberals are.   PlainOl' was
> talking about the video, and I was referencing his comments about the
> video.   PlainOl didn't make any comment about the Missouri DOT being
> socialist!!
>
> No more crack rock for you Holly!!!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> > KIT,,
>
> > Plain's post 11:05 CT this date:
>
> > "it all boils down to socialism vs capitalism."
>
> > KIT's post 11:06 CT this date:
>
> > "Well said PlainOl"
>
> > What do you call that?
>
> > Sorry, not up to you to decide who is and who is not contributing to
> > our society.
>
> > On Mar 4, 6:42 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Holly,
>
> > > Again, I never claimed that executive branch agencies were, "Socialist";
> > > you are confusing my posts with someone elses.
>
> > > I have no problem with what Missouri is doing, as a matter of fact, what
> > > Missouri is doing is none of my business.   It might be a wonderful
> > > organization.
>
> > > I want the Federal DOT dissolved, banished, and all of its current
> > employees
> > > given a pink slip, wherein they can join the ranks of productive
> > Americans,
> > > by manufacturing, selling, servicing, generating, producing, marketing,
> > or
> > > somehow contributing to our society.
>
> >  > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > KIT,
>
> > > > Will you be serious? Did you Goggle the DOT and see what their duties
> > > > are or not?
> > > > Mainly they use the trucks to haul around equipment and materials for
> > > > road repair. That's what the MODOT does, repair and maintain roads
> > > > within the state.What did you think they used them for?
>
> > > > WHAT SUDDENLY MAKES ANY OF THESE AGENCIES SOCIALIST???
>
> > > > On Mar 4, 4:54 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Why do we need a federal DOT, when the Misouri DOT is the one
> > soliciting
> > > > the
> > > > > bids, and riding around in the trucks with MODOT??
>
> > > > > What does the Missouri DOT need with a truck?
>
> > > >  > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > KIT,
>
> > > > > > Really? A construction compay owner just looks out his window one
> > day
> > > > > > and says "what the fuck are we going to do with all this fucking
> > > > > > concrete?" "Hey, I know, let's build an 8 lane highway fron St.
> > Louis
> > > > > > to Kansas City". That should be a hoot.
> > > > > > No agency makes a study concerning the need for such a highway,
> > when
> > > > > > it should be built or what route it should take? No one solicits
> > bids
> > > > > > for the construction of same and sets standards, qualifications,
> > > > > > deadlines, nothing?
>
> > > > > > Those orange trucks in my state with MODOT (Missouri Dept. Of
> > > > > > transportation) painting on their sides have absolutely
> > > > > > no connection with the U.S. DOT?
>
> > > > > > What has happened to your statement that ALL these agencies were
> > > > > > socialist? Why, all the sudden, is the focus of your posts are on
> > the
> > > > > > effeciency of these agencies? I don't believe I was talking about
> > > > > > their particular effeciency.
>
> > > > > > WHAT MAKES THOSE AGENCIES, THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES,
> > SUDDENLY
> > > > > > SOCIALIST????
> > > > > > Have you forgotten the subject of the film clip you posted to start
> > > > > > this thread?
>
> > > > > > On Mar 4, 3:37 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Holly,
>
> > > > > > > The DOT has never built a street, a highway, a bridge, much less
> > a
> > > > > > sidewalk
> > > > > > > in this Nation, EVER!!!
>
> > > > > > > The Department of Energy has yet to build a power plant, or
> > design a
> > > > > > nuclear
> > > > > > > station.....The purpose of the DOE was to reduce our dependency
> > on
> > > > > > foreign
> > > > > > > oil.....How's that working out for us??
>
> > > > > > > The Department of Education???  HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!
>
> > > > > > > These agencies are nothing more than "Job Fare" and a drain on
> > the
> > > > > > American
> > > > > > > tax payer!  They do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!   (Except continue to
> > grow,
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > their budgets getting bigger each and every year.....Eventually,
> > each
> > > > one
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > these agencies wants their own law enforcment division, where
> > they
> > > > can
> > > > > > bully
> > > > > > > the folks who pay their salaries!)
>
> > > > > > > Wake up and smell the coffee Holly!!
>
> > > > > >  > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > KIT,
>
> > > > > > > > C'mon KIT you are smart enough to Google those agencies and
> > find
> > > > out
> > > > > > > > what their duties are. Why should I do your work for you? If
> > you
> > > > don't
> > > > > > > > know what they do how did you reach the conclusion they do it
> > > > poorly?
>
> > > > > > > > You STLL don't want to discuss how all those agencies suddenly
> > > > became
> > > > > > > > socialist?????
>
> > > > > > > > Who do you propose build and maintain our highways and streets
> > if
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > the DOT?
> > > > > > > > Who would regulate the trucking industry?
>
> > > > > > > > Why are you suddenly omitting the ATF?
>
> > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 2:55 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >  Holly,
>
> > > > > > > > > I never made such a claim, that the Department of Education,
> > the
> > > > > > > > Department
> > > > > > > > > of Transportation, or the DOEnergy are socialist. They are
> > > > > > bureaucratic
> > > > > > > > > quagmires, that do nothing!  They are a drain  on our
> > economy,
> > > > and
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > done away with.
>
> > > > > > > > > What is it that you think the Department of Education does?
>
> > > > > > > > > What is it that you think the Department of Transportation
> > does?
>
> > > > > > > > > What is it that you think the Department of Energy does?
>
> > > > > > > >  > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Hollywood <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > KIT,
>
> > > > > > > > > > Pay attention KIT. Where did I suggest having a EXCLUSIVELY
> > > > > > SOCIALIST
> > > > > > > > > > CONTROLLED  government in the United States?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Don't you want to address how the govt. agencies you
> > > > > > mentioned,which
> > > > > > > > > > have been in existance for fucking decades, suddenly became
> > > > > > socialist
> > > > > > > > > > under THIS administration but were not during the PREVIOUS
> > > > > > > > > > administration?
>
> > > > > > > > > > NO? Thought not.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 2:19 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Holly,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Show me any socialist Nation-State, or communist
> > Nation-State
> > > > > > that is
> > > > > > > > > > > working successfully.  Show me one successful socialistic
> > > > program
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > Nation that is working well.  Just one, pick any one that
> > you
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > defend.
>
> > > > > > > > > >  > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Hollywood <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > KIT,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Soooo, you're saying American are stupid? Many govt.
> > have
> > > > > > active
> > > > > > > > > > > > socialist parties that are active in govt.  You are
> > rigid
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > unimaginative and insist of simply bleating slogans and
> > > > talking
> > > > > > > > > > > > points. Almost EVERY govt. has agencies that perform
> > the
> > > > duties
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > agencies you mention, some with more efficiency than
> > > > others.
> > > > > > Just
> > > > > > > > > > > > because those agencies are NOW within the Obama
> > > > administration
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > > not suddenly make them "socialist". The same agencies
> > > > existed
> > > > > > under
> > > > > > > > > > > > the previous administration, doing the functions as
> > they do
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > You're talking partisan bullshit.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 12:27 pm, Keith In Tampa <
> > [email protected]
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Holly,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Horse Hockey!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is very, "black and white".  There is no
> > socialistic
> > > > > > program
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > worked in this Nation, period.  There is no
> > socialistic
> > > > form
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > government,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that has been successful, anywhere, period.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Take it to the bank my friend!  Your comments the
> > other
> > > > day,
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > believed we needed government bureauacracies such as
> > the
> > > > DOT,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > DOEnergy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The DOEducation, and  the ATF, shows why socialists
> > and
> > > > those
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot be left to their own, "innovations".   They
> > all
> > > > want,
> > > > > > > > > > "Something
> > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing"; and for you and I to pay for it.....
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Hollywood <
> > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > KIT,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonesense, your thinking is too black/white. Why do
> > > > things
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ONLY free-market capitalism OR rigid socialism?
> > Take
> > > > the
> > > > > > best
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > two (or more) political/sociall/economic models and
> > use
> > > > > > them to
> > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > advantage. America  is the great adapter, the
> > > > innovator.
>
> ...
>
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