Biff, I asked where did Beck call for Mob Violence. From your response I'll assume you admit he did not.
As for gun ownership rights; as long as people continue to be murdered, even in their own homes, they will continue to demand the right to own a gun for protection. Nope, I don't see that in the same light at all. Maher joked about wanting it to be Beck that was killed; Beck talks about changes occurring in this country that people should be afraid of. Completely different. But even if it was the same thing, you apparently have a problem with Beck but not Maher. "...occurs during Democratic Administrations and subsides during Republican ones?" Are you kidding? Were you living under a rock during the last 6+ years of Bush's administration? Good lord, the attacks on Bush and Cheney were incessant. How do you make that comment with a straight face? Oh, and btw, and Obama administration adopted the Bush administration's policy on wiretapping and spying. Oops.. On Mar 9, 2:25 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > frankg....do you have reference to violent Progressives (not Bishop, > she is nuts) that are supported in the media or anywhere else? Now > contrast that with the behavior of a large number of prominent > rwingers calling for guns to protect themselves against who? Black > Water on the streets of New Orleans? > > OK Maher said, "You know it's sad when we see crazy senseless deaths > like this, we can only ask, 'Why, why, why couldn't it have been Glenn > Beck?'" > > frankg you see this statement in the same light as asshole beck's > constant call's for fear of boogeymen that don't exist? glenn beck > remains a whackjob > > It's curious how this occurs during Democratic Administrations and > subsides during Republican ones, despite the uptick in illegal acts, > especially wiretapping and ignoring FISA, committed by criminal bush > in the name of "security". > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Department of Homeland Security > > http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf > > (U) Current Economic and Political Climate > (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that a number of economic and political > factors are > driving a resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and > radicalization activity. > Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by > lone wolves and small > terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years. In addition, > the historical election of > an African American president and the prospect of policy changes are > proving to be a > driving force for rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalization. > — (U) A recent example of the potential violence associated with a > rise in rightwing > extremism may be found in the shooting deaths of three police officers > in > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on 4 April 2009. The alleged gunman’s > reaction > reportedly was influenced by his racist ideology and belief in > antigovernment > conspiracy theories related to gun confiscations, citizen detention > camps, and a > Jewish-controlled “one world government.” > (U) Exploiting Economic Downturn > (U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to > focus on the > economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and > construction sectors, > and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses > to a deliberate > conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These > “accusatory” tactics > are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and > further radicalize > those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this > trend is likely to > accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen. > (U) Historical Presidential Election > (U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election > as a recruitment > tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new > presidential > administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, > including immigration and > citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and > restrictions on firearms > UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > Page 4 of 9 > (U//FOUO) Perceptions on Poverty and Radicalization > (U//FOUO) Scholars and experts disagree over poverty’s role in > motivating violent radicalization or > terrorist activity. High unemployment, however, has the potential to > lead to alienation, thus increasing > an individual’s susceptibility to extremist ideas. According to a 2007 > study from the German Institute > for Economic Research, there appears to be a strong association > between a parent’s unemployment > status and the formation of rightwing extremist beliefs in their > children—specifically xenophobia and > antidemocratic ideals. > ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by > these concerns > and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election > timeframe to the > present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and > political prejudices in > expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider > audience of potential > sympathizers. > — (U//LES) Most statements by rightwing extremists have been > rhetorical, > expressing concerns about the election of the first African American > president, > but stopping short of calls for violent action. In two instances in > the run-up to the > election, extremists appeared to be in the early planning stages of > some > threatening activity targeting the Democratic nominee, but law > enforcement > interceded. > (U) Revisiting the 1990s > (U//FOUO) Paralleling the current national climate, rightwing > extremists during the > 1990s exploited a variety of social issues and political themes to > increase group visibility > and recruit new members. Prominent among these themes were the militia > movement’s > opposition to gun control efforts, criticism of free trade agreements > (particularly those > with Mexico), and highlighting perceived government infringement on > civil liberties as > well as white supremacists’ longstanding exploitation of social issues > such as abortion, > inter-racial crimes, and same-sex marriage. During the 1990s, these > issues contributed to > the growth in the number of domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist > groups and an > increase in violent acts targeting government facilities, law > enforcement officers, banks, > and infrastructure sectors. > (U) Economic Hardship and Extremism > (U//FOUO) Historically, domestic rightwing extremists have feared, > predicted, and > anticipated a cataclysmic economic collapse in the United States. > Prominent > antigovernment conspiracy theorists have incorporated aspects of an > impending > economic collapse to intensify fear and paranoia among like-minded > individuals and to > attract recruits during times of economic uncertainty. Conspiracy > theories involving > declarations of martial law, impending civil strife or racial > conflict, suspension of the > U.S. Constitution, and the creation of citizen detention camps often > incorporate aspects of > a failed economy. Antigovernment conspiracy theories and “end times” > prophecies could > motivate extremist individuals and groups to stockpile food, > ammunition, and weapons. > These teachings also have been linked with the radicalization of > domestic extremist > individuals and groups in the past, such as violent Christian Identity > organizations and > extremist members of the militia movement." > > On Mar 9, 8:51 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Biff, just curious... where does Beck call for Mob Violence as you > > suggest? He asserts the Progressives will get more violent, but he > > did not call for violence in return. Call him a whack job if you like, > > but you should still be honest in your accusations. > > > And if you object to the suggestion of violence, do you object to Bill > > Maher's comment that he wishes it was Beck who was killed at the > > Pentagon? > > > On Mar 9, 12:49 am, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Follow the money...who pays scum beck his 50 million? If he ever ends > > > up viewing a guillotine from the bottom it will operated by tea > > > partiers, not progressives. > > > > On Mar 8, 10:42 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Biff, > > > > > What a complete fucking nut-job. > > > > > On Mar 8, 9:31 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > "Beck's website: "Progressives want you dead." On his website, Beck > > > > > posted the headline: "Not 'useful'? Progressives want you dead" > > > > > > Beck: Progressives "started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted it > > > > > in the early 1900s." Purporting to discuss the history of > > > > > progressivism, Beck claimed: "I saw their influence. I saw what they > > > > > set up. They started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted it in the > > > > > early 1900s." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/7/2010] > > > > > > Beck: "To the day I die, I am going to be a progressive hunter." > > > > > Telling his audience that they "are going to learn so much on Friday," > > > > > Beck compared himself to "Israeli Nazi hunters" and commented "I'm > > > > > going to find these big progressives and to the day I die I'm going to > > > > > be a progressive hunter." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck > > > > > Program, 1/20/2010] > > > > > > Beck: Progressives "are sucking the blood out of the republic" and are > > > > > "gonna start getting more and more violent." On his Fox News show, > > > > > Beck stated that "the progressive movement is sucking the blood out of > > > > > the republic" and that their "playbook" is to "lie, cheat, steal." On > > > > > his radio show, Beck warned that progressive "vampires" have a "taste > > > > > of blood" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent." > > > > > > Beck: "Grab a torch." Asserting that politicians are addicted to > > > > > spending, Beck stated: "When do we ever run those who are bankrupting > > > > > our country and literally stealing our children's future out of town? > > > > > Grab a torch." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/6/2010] > > > > > > Beck: "I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, > > > > > something that will turn this machine on." During an interview with > > > > > Newsmax.com in which he discussed opposition to Obama's Federal > > > > > Communication Commission policies, Beck said: "I fear an event. I fear > > > > > a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something that > > > > > will turn this machine on, and power will be seized and voices will be > > > > > silenced. God help us all.'' > > > > > > Beck: "[Y]ou will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take > > > > > away my gun" and "before I acquiesce and be silent." Beck warned > > > > > "ACORN, GE, Obama, SEIU" were "awakening a sleeping giant, and I have > > > > > nothing to do with it," adding: > > > > > > BECK: America is waking up. You know the American Revolution took > > > > > place with 12 percent of the population? Twelve. Are you telling me > > > > > there is not 30 percent of this population that you will have to shoot > > > > > me in the forehead before I let somebody into my house to tell me how > > > > > to raise my children; you will have to shoot me in the > > ... > > read more » -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
