tracking progressives down and exposing them. This is what he said. He did not say hunt them down and commit violence against them. ======
Exposing them ... killing them. It's the same thing only to a drama queen. I guess Biffy is one of those, eh? On Mar 9, 11:03 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > Bill, > > I listened to what he said, I didn't read a quote. He used Nazi hunter > to suggest he would be relentless in tracking progressives down and > exposing them. This is what he said. He did not say hunt them down and > commit violence against them. > > Since the assertion that Beck has incited mob violence is bullshit, > comparisons with what was said against Bush are moot. > > What question was not answered? > > Who said anything about calling for violence against Beck watchers? > What's it with you and violence anyway? > > On Mar 9, 10:06 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > frank I assume you did not read the scumbeck quotes....portraying > > yourself (beck) on national TV as a Nazi hunter against progressives > > is most certainly incitement to violence .....Maher's comment was > > inappropriate but is not comparable to the violence scumbeck is > > calling for, ......who said anything about gun ownership? > > > calling for the impeachment of bush is not the same as inciting > > violence against a group of many millions...which means you did not > > answer the question... > > > who specifically is calling for violence against beck watchers? > > > I await for the answer from the becksheep. > > > On Mar 9, 1:56 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Biff, I asked where did Beck call for Mob Violence. From your response > > > I'll assume you admit he did not. > > > > As for gun ownership rights; as long as people continue to be > > > murdered, even in their own homes, they will continue to demand the > > > right to own a gun for protection. > > > > Nope, I don't see that in the same light at all. Maher joked about > > > wanting it to be Beck that was killed; Beck talks about changes > > > occurring in this country that people should be afraid of. Completely > > > different. But even if it was the same thing, you apparently have a > > > problem with Beck but not Maher. > > > > "...occurs during Democratic Administrations and subsides during > > > Republican ones?" Are you kidding? Were you living under a rock > > > during the last 6+ years of Bush's administration? Good lord, the > > > attacks on Bush and Cheney were incessant. How do you make that > > > comment with a straight face? > > > > Oh, and btw, and Obama administration adopted the Bush > > > administration's policy on wiretapping and spying. Oops.. > > > > On Mar 9, 2:25 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > frankg....do you have reference to violent Progressives (not Bishop, > > > > she is nuts) that are supported in the media or anywhere else? Now > > > > contrast that with the behavior of a large number of prominent > > > > rwingers calling for guns to protect themselves against who? Black > > > > Water on the streets of New Orleans? > > > > > OK Maher said, "You know it's sad when we see crazy senseless deaths > > > > like this, we can only ask, 'Why, why, why couldn't it have been Glenn > > > > Beck?'" > > > > > frankg you see this statement in the same light as asshole beck's > > > > constant call's for fear of boogeymen that don't exist? glenn beck > > > > remains a whackjob > > > > > It's curious how this occurs during Democratic Administrations and > > > > subsides during Republican ones, despite the uptick in illegal acts, > > > > especially wiretapping and ignoring FISA, committed by criminal bush > > > > in the name of "security". > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Department of Homeland Security > > > > >http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf > > > > > (U) Current Economic and Political Climate > > > > (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that a number of economic and political > > > > factors are > > > > driving a resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and > > > > radicalization activity. > > > > Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by > > > > lone wolves and small > > > > terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years. In addition, > > > > the historical election of > > > > an African American president and the prospect of policy changes are > > > > proving to be a > > > > driving force for rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalization. > > > > — (U) A recent example of the potential violence associated with a > > > > rise in rightwing > > > > extremism may be found in the shooting deaths of three police officers > > > > in > > > > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on 4 April 2009. The alleged gunman’s > > > > reaction > > > > reportedly was influenced by his racist ideology and belief in > > > > antigovernment > > > > conspiracy theories related to gun confiscations, citizen detention > > > > camps, and a > > > > Jewish-controlled “one world government.” > > > > (U) Exploiting Economic Downturn > > > > (U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to > > > > focus on the > > > > economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and > > > > construction sectors, > > > > and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses > > > > to a deliberate > > > > conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These > > > > “accusatory” tactics > > > > are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and > > > > further radicalize > > > > those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this > > > > trend is likely to > > > > accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen. > > > > (U) Historical Presidential Election > > > > (U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election > > > > as a recruitment > > > > tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new > > > > presidential > > > > administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, > > > > including immigration and > > > > citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and > > > > restrictions on firearms > > > > UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > > > > UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > > > > Page 4 of 9 > > > > (U//FOUO) Perceptions on Poverty and Radicalization > > > > (U//FOUO) Scholars and experts disagree over poverty’s role in > > > > motivating violent radicalization or > > > > terrorist activity. High unemployment, however, has the potential to > > > > lead to alienation, thus increasing > > > > an individual’s susceptibility to extremist ideas. According to a 2007 > > > > study from the German Institute > > > > for Economic Research, there appears to be a strong association > > > > between a parent’s unemployment > > > > status and the formation of rightwing extremist beliefs in their > > > > children—specifically xenophobia and > > > > antidemocratic ideals. > > > > ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by > > > > these concerns > > > > and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election > > > > timeframe to the > > > > present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and > > > > political prejudices in > > > > expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider > > > > audience of potential > > > > sympathizers. > > > > — (U//LES) Most statements by rightwing extremists have been > > > > rhetorical, > > > > expressing concerns about the election of the first African American > > > > president, > > > > but stopping short of calls for violent action. In two instances in > > > > the run-up to the > > > > election, extremists appeared to be in the early planning stages of > > > > some > > > > threatening activity targeting the Democratic nominee, but law > > > > enforcement > > > > interceded. > > > > (U) Revisiting the 1990s > > > > (U//FOUO) Paralleling the current national climate, rightwing > > > > extremists during the > > > > 1990s exploited a variety of social issues and political themes to > > > > increase group visibility > > > > and recruit new members. Prominent among these themes were the militia > > > > movement’s > > > > opposition to gun control efforts, criticism of free trade agreements > > > > (particularly those > > > > with Mexico), and highlighting perceived government infringement on > > > > civil liberties as > > > > well as white supremacists’ longstanding exploitation of social issues > > > > such as abortion, > > > > inter-racial crimes, and same-sex marriage. During the 1990s, these > > > > issues contributed to > > > > the growth in the number of domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist > > > > groups and an > > > > increase in violent acts targeting government facilities, law > > > > enforcement officers, banks, > > > > and infrastructure sectors. > > > > (U) Economic Hardship and Extremism > > > > (U//FOUO) Historically, domestic rightwing extremists have feared, > > > > predicted, and > > > > anticipated a cataclysmic economic collapse in the United States. > > > > Prominent > > > > antigovernment conspiracy theorists have incorporated aspects of an > > > > impending > > > > economic collapse to intensify fear and paranoia among like-minded > > > > individuals and to > > > > attract recruits during times of economic uncertainty. Conspiracy > > > > theories involving > > > > declarations of martial law, impending civil strife or racial > > > > conflict, suspension of the > > > > U.S. Constitution, and the creation of citizen detention camps often > > > > incorporate aspects of > > > > a failed economy. Antigovernment conspiracy theories and “end times” > > > > prophecies could > > > > motivate extremist individuals and groups to stockpile food, > > > > ammunition, and weapons. > > > > These teachings also have been linked with the radicalization of > > > > domestic extremist > > > > individuals and groups in the past, such as violent Christian Identity > > > > organizations and > > > > extremist members of the militia movement." > > > > > On Mar 9, 8:51 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Biff, just curious... where does Beck call for Mob Violence as you > > > > > suggest? He asserts the Progressives will get more violent, but he > > > > > did not call for violence in return. Call him a whack job if you like, > > > > > but you should still be honest in your accusations. > > > > > > And if you object to the suggestion of violence, do you object to Bill > > > > > Maher's comment that he wishes it > > ... > > read more » -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
