Biff, I asked where did Beck call for Mob Violence. From your response I'll assume you admit he did not. === I don't think he'll admit anything of the sort. In fact it appears he'll just post another 93 lines of distraction and hope you'll forget the question.
On Mar 9, 2:56 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > Biff, I asked where did Beck call for Mob Violence. From your response > I'll assume you admit he did not. > > As for gun ownership rights; as long as people continue to be > murdered, even in their own homes, they will continue to demand the > right to own a gun for protection. > > Nope, I don't see that in the same light at all. Maher joked about > wanting it to be Beck that was killed; Beck talks about changes > occurring in this country that people should be afraid of. Completely > different. But even if it was the same thing, you apparently have a > problem with Beck but not Maher. > > "...occurs during Democratic Administrations and subsides during > Republican ones?" Are you kidding? Were you living under a rock > during the last 6+ years of Bush's administration? Good lord, the > attacks on Bush and Cheney were incessant. How do you make that > comment with a straight face? > > Oh, and btw, and Obama administration adopted the Bush > administration's policy on wiretapping and spying. Oops.. > > On Mar 9, 2:25 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > frankg....do you have reference to violent Progressives (not Bishop, > > she is nuts) that are supported in the media or anywhere else? Now > > contrast that with the behavior of a large number of prominent > > rwingers calling for guns to protect themselves against who? Black > > Water on the streets of New Orleans? > > > OK Maher said, "You know it's sad when we see crazy senseless deaths > > like this, we can only ask, 'Why, why, why couldn't it have been Glenn > > Beck?'" > > > frankg you see this statement in the same light as asshole beck's > > constant call's for fear of boogeymen that don't exist? glenn beck > > remains a whackjob > > > It's curious how this occurs during Democratic Administrations and > > subsides during Republican ones, despite the uptick in illegal acts, > > especially wiretapping and ignoring FISA, committed by criminal bush > > in the name of "security". > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Department of Homeland Security > > >http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf > > > (U) Current Economic and Political Climate > > (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that a number of economic and political > > factors are > > driving a resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and > > radicalization activity. > > Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by > > lone wolves and small > > terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years. In addition, > > the historical election of > > an African American president and the prospect of policy changes are > > proving to be a > > driving force for rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalization. > > — (U) A recent example of the potential violence associated with a > > rise in rightwing > > extremism may be found in the shooting deaths of three police officers > > in > > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on 4 April 2009. The alleged gunman’s > > reaction > > reportedly was influenced by his racist ideology and belief in > > antigovernment > > conspiracy theories related to gun confiscations, citizen detention > > camps, and a > > Jewish-controlled “one world government.” > > (U) Exploiting Economic Downturn > > (U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to > > focus on the > > economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and > > construction sectors, > > and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses > > to a deliberate > > conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These > > “accusatory” tactics > > are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and > > further radicalize > > those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this > > trend is likely to > > accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen. > > (U) Historical Presidential Election > > (U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election > > as a recruitment > > tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new > > presidential > > administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, > > including immigration and > > citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and > > restrictions on firearms > > UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > > UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > > Page 4 of 9 > > (U//FOUO) Perceptions on Poverty and Radicalization > > (U//FOUO) Scholars and experts disagree over poverty’s role in > > motivating violent radicalization or > > terrorist activity. High unemployment, however, has the potential to > > lead to alienation, thus increasing > > an individual’s susceptibility to extremist ideas. According to a 2007 > > study from the German Institute > > for Economic Research, there appears to be a strong association > > between a parent’s unemployment > > status and the formation of rightwing extremist beliefs in their > > children—specifically xenophobia and > > antidemocratic ideals. > > ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by > > these concerns > > and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election > > timeframe to the > > present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and > > political prejudices in > > expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider > > audience of potential > > sympathizers. > > — (U//LES) Most statements by rightwing extremists have been > > rhetorical, > > expressing concerns about the election of the first African American > > president, > > but stopping short of calls for violent action. In two instances in > > the run-up to the > > election, extremists appeared to be in the early planning stages of > > some > > threatening activity targeting the Democratic nominee, but law > > enforcement > > interceded. > > (U) Revisiting the 1990s > > (U//FOUO) Paralleling the current national climate, rightwing > > extremists during the > > 1990s exploited a variety of social issues and political themes to > > increase group visibility > > and recruit new members. Prominent among these themes were the militia > > movement’s > > opposition to gun control efforts, criticism of free trade agreements > > (particularly those > > with Mexico), and highlighting perceived government infringement on > > civil liberties as > > well as white supremacists’ longstanding exploitation of social issues > > such as abortion, > > inter-racial crimes, and same-sex marriage. During the 1990s, these > > issues contributed to > > the growth in the number of domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist > > groups and an > > increase in violent acts targeting government facilities, law > > enforcement officers, banks, > > and infrastructure sectors. > > (U) Economic Hardship and Extremism > > (U//FOUO) Historically, domestic rightwing extremists have feared, > > predicted, and > > anticipated a cataclysmic economic collapse in the United States. > > Prominent > > antigovernment conspiracy theorists have incorporated aspects of an > > impending > > economic collapse to intensify fear and paranoia among like-minded > > individuals and to > > attract recruits during times of economic uncertainty. Conspiracy > > theories involving > > declarations of martial law, impending civil strife or racial > > conflict, suspension of the > > U.S. Constitution, and the creation of citizen detention camps often > > incorporate aspects of > > a failed economy. Antigovernment conspiracy theories and “end times” > > prophecies could > > motivate extremist individuals and groups to stockpile food, > > ammunition, and weapons. > > These teachings also have been linked with the radicalization of > > domestic extremist > > individuals and groups in the past, such as violent Christian Identity > > organizations and > > extremist members of the militia movement." > > > On Mar 9, 8:51 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Biff, just curious... where does Beck call for Mob Violence as you > > > suggest? He asserts the Progressives will get more violent, but he > > > did not call for violence in return. Call him a whack job if you like, > > > but you should still be honest in your accusations. > > > > And if you object to the suggestion of violence, do you object to Bill > > > Maher's comment that he wishes it was Beck who was killed at the > > > Pentagon? > > > > On Mar 9, 12:49 am, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Follow the money...who pays scum beck his 50 million? If he ever ends > > > > up viewing a guillotine from the bottom it will operated by tea > > > > partiers, not progressives. > > > > > On Mar 8, 10:42 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Biff, > > > > > > What a complete fucking nut-job. > > > > > > On Mar 8, 9:31 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > "Beck's website: "Progressives want you dead." On his website, Beck > > > > > > posted the headline: "Not 'useful'? Progressives want you dead" > > > > > > > Beck: Progressives "started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted > > > > > > it > > > > > > in the early 1900s." Purporting to discuss the history of > > > > > > progressivism, Beck claimed: "I saw their influence. I saw what they > > > > > > set up. They started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted it in > > > > > > the > > > > > > early 1900s." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/7/2010] > > > > > > > Beck: "To the day I die, I am going to be a progressive hunter." > > > > > > Telling his audience that they "are going to learn so much on > > > > > > Friday," > > > > > > Beck compared himself to "Israeli Nazi hunters" and commented "I'm > > > > > > going to find these big progressives and to the day I die I'm going > > > > > > to > > > > > > be a progressive hunter." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck > > > > > > Program, 1/20/2010] > > > > > > > Beck: Progressives "are sucking the blood out of the republic" and > > > > > > are > > > > > > "gonna start getting more and more violent." On his Fox News show, > > > > > > Beck stated that "the progressive movement is sucking the blood out > > > > > > of > > > > > > the republic" and that their "playbook" is to "lie, cheat, steal." > > > > > > On > > > > > > his radio show, Beck warned that progressive "vampires" have a > > > > > > "taste > > > > > > of blood" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent." > > > > > > > Beck: > > ... > > read more » -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
