frank I assume you did not read the scumbeck quotes....portraying yourself (beck) on national TV as a Nazi hunter against progressives is most certainly incitement to violence .....Maher's comment was inappropriate but is not comparable to the violence scumbeck is calling for, ......who said anything about gun ownership?
calling for the impeachment of bush is not the same as inciting violence against a group of many millions...which means you did not answer the question... who specifically is calling for violence against beck watchers? I await for the answer from the becksheep. On Mar 9, 1:56 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > Biff, I asked where did Beck call for Mob Violence. From your response > I'll assume you admit he did not. > > As for gun ownership rights; as long as people continue to be > murdered, even in their own homes, they will continue to demand the > right to own a gun for protection. > > Nope, I don't see that in the same light at all. Maher joked about > wanting it to be Beck that was killed; Beck talks about changes > occurring in this country that people should be afraid of. Completely > different. But even if it was the same thing, you apparently have a > problem with Beck but not Maher. > > "...occurs during Democratic Administrations and subsides during > Republican ones?" Are you kidding? Were you living under a rock > during the last 6+ years of Bush's administration? Good lord, the > attacks on Bush and Cheney were incessant. How do you make that > comment with a straight face? > > Oh, and btw, and Obama administration adopted the Bush > administration's policy on wiretapping and spying. Oops.. > > On Mar 9, 2:25 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > frankg....do you have reference to violent Progressives (not Bishop, > > she is nuts) that are supported in the media or anywhere else? Now > > contrast that with the behavior of a large number of prominent > > rwingers calling for guns to protect themselves against who? Black > > Water on the streets of New Orleans? > > > OK Maher said, "You know it's sad when we see crazy senseless deaths > > like this, we can only ask, 'Why, why, why couldn't it have been Glenn > > Beck?'" > > > frankg you see this statement in the same light as asshole beck's > > constant call's for fear of boogeymen that don't exist? glenn beck > > remains a whackjob > > > It's curious how this occurs during Democratic Administrations and > > subsides during Republican ones, despite the uptick in illegal acts, > > especially wiretapping and ignoring FISA, committed by criminal bush > > in the name of "security". > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Department of Homeland Security > > >http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf > > > (U) Current Economic and Political Climate > > (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that a number of economic and political > > factors are > > driving a resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and > > radicalization activity. > > Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by > > lone wolves and small > > terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years. In addition, > > the historical election of > > an African American president and the prospect of policy changes are > > proving to be a > > driving force for rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalization. > > — (U) A recent example of the potential violence associated with a > > rise in rightwing > > extremism may be found in the shooting deaths of three police officers > > in > > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on 4 April 2009. The alleged gunman’s > > reaction > > reportedly was influenced by his racist ideology and belief in > > antigovernment > > conspiracy theories related to gun confiscations, citizen detention > > camps, and a > > Jewish-controlled “one world government.” > > (U) Exploiting Economic Downturn > > (U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to > > focus on the > > economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and > > construction sectors, > > and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses > > to a deliberate > > conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These > > “accusatory” tactics > > are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and > > further radicalize > > those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this > > trend is likely to > > accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen. > > (U) Historical Presidential Election > > (U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election > > as a recruitment > > tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new > > presidential > > administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, > > including immigration and > > citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and > > restrictions on firearms > > UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > > UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY > > Page 4 of 9 > > (U//FOUO) Perceptions on Poverty and Radicalization > > (U//FOUO) Scholars and experts disagree over poverty’s role in > > motivating violent radicalization or > > terrorist activity. High unemployment, however, has the potential to > > lead to alienation, thus increasing > > an individual’s susceptibility to extremist ideas. According to a 2007 > > study from the German Institute > > for Economic Research, there appears to be a strong association > > between a parent’s unemployment > > status and the formation of rightwing extremist beliefs in their > > children—specifically xenophobia and > > antidemocratic ideals. > > ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by > > these concerns > > and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election > > timeframe to the > > present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and > > political prejudices in > > expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider > > audience of potential > > sympathizers. > > — (U//LES) Most statements by rightwing extremists have been > > rhetorical, > > expressing concerns about the election of the first African American > > president, > > but stopping short of calls for violent action. In two instances in > > the run-up to the > > election, extremists appeared to be in the early planning stages of > > some > > threatening activity targeting the Democratic nominee, but law > > enforcement > > interceded. > > (U) Revisiting the 1990s > > (U//FOUO) Paralleling the current national climate, rightwing > > extremists during the > > 1990s exploited a variety of social issues and political themes to > > increase group visibility > > and recruit new members. Prominent among these themes were the militia > > movement’s > > opposition to gun control efforts, criticism of free trade agreements > > (particularly those > > with Mexico), and highlighting perceived government infringement on > > civil liberties as > > well as white supremacists’ longstanding exploitation of social issues > > such as abortion, > > inter-racial crimes, and same-sex marriage. During the 1990s, these > > issues contributed to > > the growth in the number of domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist > > groups and an > > increase in violent acts targeting government facilities, law > > enforcement officers, banks, > > and infrastructure sectors. > > (U) Economic Hardship and Extremism > > (U//FOUO) Historically, domestic rightwing extremists have feared, > > predicted, and > > anticipated a cataclysmic economic collapse in the United States. > > Prominent > > antigovernment conspiracy theorists have incorporated aspects of an > > impending > > economic collapse to intensify fear and paranoia among like-minded > > individuals and to > > attract recruits during times of economic uncertainty. Conspiracy > > theories involving > > declarations of martial law, impending civil strife or racial > > conflict, suspension of the > > U.S. Constitution, and the creation of citizen detention camps often > > incorporate aspects of > > a failed economy. Antigovernment conspiracy theories and “end times” > > prophecies could > > motivate extremist individuals and groups to stockpile food, > > ammunition, and weapons. > > These teachings also have been linked with the radicalization of > > domestic extremist > > individuals and groups in the past, such as violent Christian Identity > > organizations and > > extremist members of the militia movement." > > > On Mar 9, 8:51 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Biff, just curious... where does Beck call for Mob Violence as you > > > suggest? He asserts the Progressives will get more violent, but he > > > did not call for violence in return. Call him a whack job if you like, > > > but you should still be honest in your accusations. > > > > And if you object to the suggestion of violence, do you object to Bill > > > Maher's comment that he wishes it was Beck who was killed at the > > > Pentagon? > > > > On Mar 9, 12:49 am, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Follow the money...who pays scum beck his 50 million? If he ever ends > > > > up viewing a guillotine from the bottom it will operated by tea > > > > partiers, not progressives. > > > > > On Mar 8, 10:42 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Biff, > > > > > > What a complete fucking nut-job. > > > > > > On Mar 8, 9:31 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > "Beck's website: "Progressives want you dead." On his website, Beck > > > > > > posted the headline: "Not 'useful'? Progressives want you dead" > > > > > > > Beck: Progressives "started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted > > > > > > it > > > > > > in the early 1900s." Purporting to discuss the history of > > > > > > progressivism, Beck claimed: "I saw their influence. I saw what they > > > > > > set up. They started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted it in > > > > > > the > > > > > > early 1900s." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/7/2010] > > > > > > > Beck: "To the day I die, I am going to be a progressive hunter." > > > > > > Telling his audience that they "are going to learn so much on > > > > > > Friday," > > > > > > Beck compared himself to "Israeli Nazi hunters" and commented "I'm > > > > > > going to find these big progressives and to the day I die I'm going > > > > > > to > > > > > > be a progressive hunter." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck > > > > > > Program, 1/20/2010] > > > > > > > Beck: Progressives "are sucking the blood out of the republic" and > > > > > > are > > > > > > "gonna start getting more and more violent." On his Fox News show, > > > > > > Beck stated that "the progressive movement is sucking the blood out > > > > > > of > > > > > > the republic" and that their "playbook" is to "lie, cheat, steal." > > > > > > On > > > > > > his radio show, Beck warned that progressive "vampires" have a > > > > > > "taste > > > > > > of blood" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent." > > > > > > > Beck: > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
