Just to save time and feelings: Main Entry: *ev·ery·thing* Pronunciation: \ˈev-rē-ˌthiŋ\ Function: *pronoun* Date: 14th century
*1 a* *:* all that exists *b* *:* all that relates to the subject *2* *:* all that is important <you mean everything to me> *3* *:* all sorts of other things —used to indicate related but unspecified events, facts, or conditions <all the pains and colds and everything — E. B. White> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Zebnick <zebn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why don't you look it up, Holly? Minutia is your forte'. > > On Mar 17, 4:19 pm, Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Zeb, > > > > Maybe it would help if you looked up the definition of the word > > "everything". > > > > On Mar 17, 3:01 pm, Zebnick <zebn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I need to address whatever the fuck I feel like addressing. And if I > > > feel like highlighting VT's preposterous obsession with blaming > > > everything on Bush, which he did in this thread, or your goofy, self- > > > serving "interpretations" of what other people mean, I'll do it, > > > whether you decide to bore the forum to death or not. > > > > > On Mar 17, 11:20 am, Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Zeb, > > > > > > Ya' need to focus and try to deal with the subject at hand. I know > the > > > > AADD probably makes that tough, but just do your best. The subject is > > > > Afghanistan and comparisons to Vietnam, not Sean's life or YOUR > "goofy > > > > interpretation" of it. > > > > > > Does is occur to you I don't give the slightest fuck what you think > > > > boring? > > > > > > On Mar 17, 10:04 am, Zebnick <zebn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm saying that VT's eternal attempts to blame everything in the > world > > > > > and his failed life on Bush are boring. And your goofy > interpretations > > > > > of what people mean to say are also boring. > > > > > > > On Mar 17, 9:12 am, Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Zeb, > > > > > > > > What? We HAVEN'T been in Afghanistan for 9 nine years, longer > than the > > > > > > fighting in WWI, WWII and Korea combined? > > > > > > Are you saying that is not true or are you saying that the truth > bores > > > > > > you? > > > > > > > > On Mar 17, 8:05 am, Zebnick <zebn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You're a one trick pony. Get a new act. You're boring. > > > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 11:03 pm, VT Sean Lewis <thevirtualtr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We have been at war for 9 years in Afghanistan, if we lose it > will be > > > > > > > > because of the incompetence of Bush. > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 10:42 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=36041 > > > > > > > > > > > *Will Congress Lose Afghanistan Like It Lost Vietnam? * > > > > > > > > > > > *by Phillip Jennings * > > > > > > > > > > > 03/16/2010 > > > > > > > > > > > As you prepare for your imminent deployment to Afghanistan, > I guess it’s > > > > > > > > > inevitable that I’m thinking of that time forty five years > ago that I > > > > > > > > > prepared for my deployment to Vietnam as a young lieutenant > of Marines. > > > > > > > > > We’ve talked about the similarities in our respective wars, > but there’s a > > > > > > > > > lot more I could say. The concurrent publication of my > *Politically > > > > > > > > > Incorrect Guide to the Vietnam > > > > > > > > > War< > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596985674?ie=UTF8&tag=humaneventson...> > > > > > > > > > * has sharpened our discussions and my ability to comment > on your questions. > > > > > > > > > > > First, it is critically important for Americans to > understand the true > > > > > > > > > history of our involvement. Most important is the fact > that the U.S. > > > > > > > > > military fought brilliantly and defeated the Communist > aggressors in > > > > > > > > > Vietnam. Yes, that’s right. We won the war. And then we > saw the Congress > > > > > > > > > of the United States throw away that victory by abrogating > our obligations > > > > > > > > > to continue support of the South Vietnamese. > > > > > > > > > > > Why is that so important? Simply because that fact > illuminates the only way > > > > > > > > > we can similarly lose in Afghanistan. You will not be > defeated on the > > > > > > > > > battlefield. Of that, there is no question. > > > > > > > > > > > But, as in Vietnam, the administration has all but > eliminated the phrase > > > > > > > > > “win the war” from its rhetoric about the conflict. As the > administrations > > > > > > > > > prior to President Nixon did in the Vietnam War, the Obama > administration > > > > > > > > > will continue to confuse and dissemble, not trusting the > American people’s > > > > > > > > > wisdom, will and judgment. > > > > > > > > > > > The Obama team is -- like the Johnson administration did > so often -- > > > > > > > > > debating the very definition of winning and even question > that possibility. > > > > > > > > > > > However, although there are complicated and sometimes > conflicting elements > > > > > > > > > of the war in Afghanistan, the fact is that America (and > the West) cannot > > > > > > > > > abandon that part of the world to hundreds of thousands if > not millions of > > > > > > > > > West-hating combatants who will have access to increasingly > destructive > > > > > > > > > weapons, recruits and, yes, atomic weapons. Some of the > latter are already > > > > > > > > > in place in Pakistan, a nation whose future is very much at > risk. > > > > > > > > > > > We are not in a war against Islam. But we are at war with > an Islam-derived > > > > > > > > > ideology and – if we’re truthful about it -- not just the > terrorists but the > > > > > > > > > nations that finance, arm and comprehensively support them. > And -- facts are > > > > > > > > > what they are -- those nations and terrorist groups are > almost without > > > > > > > > > exception, Islamic. > > > > > > > > > > > The terrorists and the terrorist-sponsoring nations believe > that a > > > > > > > > > non-conventional war can be fought successfully against the > greatest > > > > > > > > > military force ever assembled. And why wouldn’t they > believe that, given the > > > > > > > > > timid and hesitant proclamations coming out of Washington? > > > > > > > > > > > The recently deceased leftist ‘intellectual’ Howard Zinn, > in his *People’s > > > > > > > > > History of the United States*, begins the chapter on the > Vietnam War thusly: > > > > > > > > > “From 1964 to 1972, the wealthiest and most powerful nation > in the history > > > > > > > > > of the world made a maximum military effort, with > everything short of atomic > > > > > > > > > bombs, to defeat a nationalist revolutionary movement in a > tiny, peasant > > > > > > > > > county -- and failed.” The undeniable truth is that the > U.S. used a faulty > > > > > > > > > strategy far short of a maximum effort and succeeded > overwhelmingly. > > > > > > > > > > > The considerable gap between those two statements -- > failure and success -- > > > > > > > > > is important and that’s why I wrote the book. And that’s > why the American > > > > > > > > > people need to know what happened between the end of 1972 > (really early 1973 > > > > > > > > > when the North Vietnamese surrendered) and 1975 when South > Vietnam was lost. > > > > > > > > > We cannot let it happen again. > > > > > > > > > > > I recently read a brilliant book by David Kilcullen, *The > Accidental > > > > > > > > > Guerrilla; Fighting Small Wars in the Midst of a Big One*. > I hope you will > > > > > > > > > have a chance to read it. In it, he outlines the “Islamic > Way of War.” > > > > > > > > > > > Simply put, the basics are “terrorism against the > population, subversion, > > > > > > > > > economic warfare (there is no doubt that America fights > expensive wars and > > > > > > > > > even we have practical limits), propaganda, and hit and run > tactics.” He > > > > > > > > > also quotes the Chinese ‘rules of conventional war’ which > calls for combat > > > > > > > > > by electronic, diplomatic, cyber, terrorist, political, > economic and > > > > > > > > > propaganda means. Both methods (completely taken from the > North > > > > > > > > > Vietnamese/Communist playbook, although updated) are > designed to overload, > > > > > > > > > deceive, and exhaust the United States. Kilcullen also > restates the first > > > > > > > > > rule of non-conventional warfare -- there are no rules. > > > > > > > > > > > What a discomforting paradox the U.S. finds itself in. In > the first half of > > > > > > > > > the past century we sent our troops abroad praying that > they had the > > > > > > > > > wherewithal, courage and stamina to conquer our enemies. > Now our troops > > > > > > > > > leave our shores praying that those left at home can find > the courage and > > > > > > > > > stamina to support their almost certain battlefield > successes. > > > > > > > > > > > So I hope that in some small way my book can help alert > Americans to the > > > > > > > > > true path of defeat. That it can alert them to the only way > our enemies can > > > > > > > > > hope to succeed against us -- the loss of heart, > determination to do what’s > > > > > > > > > right and necessary, and the failure of leadership such as > that which > > > > > > > > > resulted in the shameful forfeiture of blood-won victory in > Vietnam. > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > *Phillip Jennings served in Vietnam with the United States > Marine Corps, > > > > > > > > > flying helicopters, and in Laos as a pilot for Air America. > He is the author > > > > > > > > > of the critically acclaimed comic novels Nam-A-Rama and > Goodbye Mexico, and > > > > > > > > > won the Pirate** **s Alley Faulkner Society first prize for > fiction with his > > > > > > > > > short story, ** **Train Wreck in a Small Town.** ** A > successful > > > > > > > > > entrepreneur, he is currently CEO of Molecular Resonance > Corporation, which > > > > > > > > > is developing technology to detect and disarm Improvised > Explosive Devices. > > > > > > > > > He lives with his family near Seattle, Washington.*- Hide > quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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