I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "but Newt Gingrich is a far cry from Kristol." Are you saying you like Gingrich?

On 9/17/2010 9:01 AM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
Interesting perspective Jonathan.....I am no Bill Kristol fan, but Newt Gingrich is a far cry from Kristol and other Neo-Cons.....


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Unfortunately, the Tea Party groups are already being co-opted by
    the likes of Sarah Palin and Dick Armey.

    "Palin’s public voice is an instrument of great versatility. In a
    few moments, she can turn from kind to hateful, rational to
    unhinged. At her best Palin can be folksy and pungent. But she
    needs outside help to give her voice its national range. For
    messaging strategy, Palin relies on _William Kristol_, editor of
    /The Weekly Standard, /and _Fred Malek_, who was an aide to
    Presidents Richard Nixon and George H. W. Bush. The lawyer Robert
    Barnett, the most successful literary agent in Washington — his
    clients range from Hillary Clinton to Dick Cheney to Tony Blair —
    negotiated Palin’s reported $7 million advance for /Going Rogue,/
    and he helps oversee her speaking schedule, which is arranged by
    the Washington Speakers Bureau. The small inner circle that shapes
    Palin’s voice day to day includes _lobbyist Randy Scheunemann_, a
    director of the neoconservative think tank Project for the New
    American Century, who advises Palin on foreign affairs, and Kim
    Daniels, a lawyer with the Thomas More Law Center, which has been
    called “the Christian answer to the A.C.L.U.,” who advises her on
    domestic issues. Palin’s speechwriter is Lindsay Hayes. Doug
    McMarlin and Jason Recher, both of whom did advance work for
    George W. Bush, serve as body men and confidants."[1]

    Armey (along with con man Newt Gingrich) was one of the prime
    architects of the 1994 Contract With America. It's been 16 years
    since the Republicans pulled that scam - I'm still waiting for
    results.


    [1]
    
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/10/sarah-palin-201010?currentPage=all



    On 9/17/2010 7:53 AM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
    Actually, I couldn't disagree more.
    The Tea Partiers are actually a legitimate, grass roots crew, who
    the far left socialist-elitists detest.  They are true Americans
    who have finally stood up to the Marxists in control, and for
    those of them who have been active in politics, to their own
    formally conservative Republican Party and demanded a house
    cleaning, and their party back.
    They will make a difference this election, as in 2012, and don't
    be surprised to see the likes of O'Connell in Delaware, as well
    as others throughout the Nation to shock a lot of these purported
    "moderates"  who are pretty much what the Democratic Party used
    to be.

    On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM, nominal9 <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Well... to continue on the same metaphor.... actually, I was
        speaking
        about the Membership of the Tea party Express....Ever hear the
        expression
        "It isn't what you know it's WHO you know that matters to get
        ahead in
        this world."?.....
        I think that the expression holds for the major part (if not
        all) of
        Tea Party Expressers..... just a bunch of social climbing elitist
        sorts who get by on their connections and cronyism. But, I've
        altered
        that "expression" about social climbers and such economic
        parasites a
        bit..... I say... It isn't what you know it's WHO'S COCK YOU
        BLOW that
        matters to get ahead in this world.... It was just a
         continuation of
        the metaphor to get to the "train-like" sound that the Tea Party
        Express Train makes..... HAR HAR HAR HAR.... all in parody
        and satire,
        of course....
        nominal9
        On Sep 15, 8:03 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        > I'm doing great Nominal,
        >
        > So.....When you see Tea Party Patriots,  your mind wanders
        to having oral
        > sex?
        >
        > Okay.....I think that speaks volumes.....
        >
        >
        >
        > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM, nominal9
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        > > I've got this "gag"... hope it doesn't get me censored
        off this
        > > site..... it isn't about any other poster or even about
        any  one
        > > "public personality.... although a "public personality"
        should be fair
        > > game to Satire, Parody and such (Heck, Travis seems to
        get away with a
        > > lot of that)..........It's about the Tea Party Express
        > > Do you know what the Tea Party Exress Train sounds like?
        > > It goes....
        >
        > > Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
        > > Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
        > > Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
        > > Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
        >
        > > HAR...
        > > how you doin' Keith from Tampa?
        >
        > > On Sep 15, 3:50 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        > >
        
>http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Election-2010/2010/0915/What-is-the-tea-...
        >
        > > > By Brad Knickerbocker, Staff writer / September 15, 2010
        >
        > > > In recent months, the "tea party" movement has swept
        across the
        > > > political landscape, sending shivers through both major
        political
        > > > parties and shaking up this year’s midterm elections.
        >
        > > > Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
        > > > Related Stories
        > > > 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet
        admirers,' poll finds
        > > > 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper
        sticker? Tea
        > > > Party - All coverage What began as a minor insurgency
        featuring
        > > > protesters waving signs of dubious syntax, followed by
        racially tinged
        > > > conspiracies about President Obama’s lineage and
        religion and
        > > > ostentatiously displayed firearms – and cheered on by some
        > > > conservative commentators and bloggers – is now winning
        elections that
        > > > could determine the balance of power in the US
        Congress. (The main
        > > > question here is, does the trend favor Republicans or
        Democrats?)
        >
        > > > There is no such thing as the “tea party.” It is not
        organized as
        > > > such, and in fact the movement in some sense is
        antiparty – even
        > > > though most of its political pot-stirring has been
        within the GOP.
        >
        > > > IN PICTURES: Tea Parties
        >
        > > > Join our conversation about the tea party on Facebook.
        > > > The “Taxed Enough Already” movement took initial aim at
        federal
        > > > government attempts to bail out and then stimulate a
        faltering economy
        > > > – attempts that had begun during the Bush
        administration – as well as
        > > > at the Obama administration’s push for health-care
        insurance reform.
        >
        > > > If the movement had a symbolic beginning, it was in
        January 2009 with
        > > > stock-trader Graham Makohoniuk’s call to mail tea bags
        to members of
        > > > Congress. Conservative bloggers took up the theme,
        CNBC’s Rick
        > > > Santelli made his famous rant against government help
        for underwater
        > > > home mortgages, and public protests around the country
        began.
        >
        > > > Since then, the movement has sprouted (although not
        been defined or
        > > > controlled by) several major organizations.
        >
        > > > Tea Party Patriots says it has more than 1,000
        community-based tea
        > > > party groups around the country. The group’s mission is
        to “attract,
        > > > educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to
        secure public
        > > > policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal
        Responsibility,
        > > > Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets,”
        according to
        > > > its website.
        >
        > > > FreedomWorks, chaired by former US House majority
        leader Dick Armey,
        > > > claims “hundreds of thousands of grassroots volunteers
        nationwide.”
        > > > FreedomWorks goes back to 1984, but has become a major
        source of the
        > > > tea party movement’s promotion and activities. It was
        an organizer of
        > > > last Sunday’s Taxpayer March on Washington.
        >
        > > > Page: 1 | 2
        > > > The Tea Party Express, based in Sacramento, Calif., was
        a major force
        > > > behind the Republican primary victories of Sharron
        Angle in Nevada,
        > > > Joe Miller in Alaska, and Christine O’Donnell in
        Delaware. It was also
        > > > a major donor to Scott Brown’s successful campaign for
        US Senate in
        > > > Massachusetts.
        >
        > > > Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
        > > > Related Stories
        > > > 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet
        admirers,' poll finds
        > > > 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper
        sticker? Tea
        > > > Party - All coverage There may not be a “tea party” per
        se, but its
        > > > adherents' philosophy and aims are officially
        represented on Capitol
        > > > Hill. In July, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R) of Minnesota
        formed the Tea
        > > > Party Caucus. Fifty lawmakers quickly joined the group.
        >
        > > > While national organizations and grass-roots groups
        have their own
        > > > stated goals, there is a tea party manifesto of sorts,
        which
        > > > candidates are being encouraged to endorse. It’s the
        Contract From
        > > > America, launched by Ryan Hecker, an attorney and
        activist in Houston.
        >
        > > > Meanwhile, a clearer picture of tea partyers is emerging.
        >
        > > > In March, the Sam Adams Alliance, a Chicago-based
        nonprofit, issued a
        > > > report based on a national survey of the tea party
        movement, its
        > > > leaders, and their motivations.
        >
        > > > Among the findings:
        >
        > > > • 86 percent oppose the formation of a third party.
        > > > • 36 percent support a 2012 Sarah Palin presidential
        candidacy.
        > > > • 81 percent have a website for their organization.
        > > > • 90 percent cited “to stand up for my beliefs” when
        characterizing
        > > > their initial reason for involvement.
        > > > • 62 percent identified as Republicans, 28 percent as
        Independents, 10
        > > > percent as “Tea Party.”
        >
        > > > “Tea Party activists are for the most part new to this
        role,” the
        > > > report states. “They are neither practiced nor polished
        in activism;
        > > > but having experienced a taste of the empowerment that
        comes with
        > > > action, they feel more than ever that this is their
        time to act. Above
        > > > all, they are motivated by a fear of NOT acting....
        Their diversity is
        > > > their strength, and they are not a movement that can
        easily be defined
        > > > by those jumping up to lead them. They are powerful
        and, in this
        > > > sense, they are the ‘early adopters’ of a new type of
        political
        > > > involvement.”
        >
        > > > More recently, the Sam Adams Alliance reports that
        significant numbers
        > > > of newcomers to the tea party movement are dropping
        their affiliation
        > > > with the GOP: Forty-seven percent changed their
        political affiliation
        > > > to “Independent/unaffiliated,” 20 percent changed to
        “other,” 20
        > > > percent to “Tea Party,” and 13 percent to “Libertarian.”
        >
        > > > That's exactly why Republicans as well as Democrats are
        very concerned
        > > > about this new movement in American politics.
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