Greg, Of course he did.... facts are like that, yeah they are.
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:33 PM, GregfromBoston <[email protected]>wrote: > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is unconstitutional. > It IS. > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > Markie Mark- > > > > Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated. > > > > At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th Century, "gay" > > simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had nothing to do > > with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to same-gendered > > "friendship", which was the term used for same gender relationships at > that > > time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all, as the > term > > as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was rarely > ever > > discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private encounters between > > "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution does, > however, > > state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any citizen is > > unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and > > subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are citizens > of > > the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No ) State shall > > make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities > of > > citizens of the United States; nor shall any State > > deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or > > property, without due > > process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person within its > > jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the laws." > > Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of gays in the > > United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and discriminatory. > > > > So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in etymology and > the > > Constitution enlightens you somewhat. > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tommy, > > > > > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that Gays > > > (etc) do not have. > > > > > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them. Just what > > > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that others > > > have. > > > > > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be granted > > > on a State level. > > > > > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different "privileges" > > > and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are not now nor > > > were they ever meant to be, "Rights". > > > > > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being that which > > > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I would > > > NEVER live in Texas) > > > > > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use laws, > > > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL vary from > > > State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right" to make > > > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as long as > > > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and > > > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights". > > > > > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated "Rights" > > > are you lacking ?? > > > > > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each. Then we > > > can discuss it. > > > > > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate (remember, > > > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest > > > discussion. > > > > > -- > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > -- > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > Have a great day, > > Tommy- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Mark M. Kahle H. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
