Yes, Greg. I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional.
On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is unconstitutional. > It IS. > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> Markie Mark- >> >> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated. >> >> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th Century, "gay" >> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had nothing to do >> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to same-gendered >> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender relationships at >> that >> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all, as the >> term >> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was rarely >> ever >> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private encounters between >> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution does, however, >> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any citizen is >> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and >> subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are citizens of >> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No ) State shall >> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities >> of >> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State >> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or >> property, without due >> process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person within its >> jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the laws." >> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of gays in the >> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and discriminatory. >> >> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in etymology and the >> Constitution enlightens you somewhat. >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Tommy, >> >> > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that Gays >> > (etc) do not have. >> >> > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them. Just what >> > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that others >> > have. >> >> > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be granted >> > on a State level. >> >> > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different "privileges" >> > and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are not now nor >> > were they ever meant to be, "Rights". >> >> > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being that which >> > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I would >> > NEVER live in Texas) >> >> > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use laws, >> > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL vary from >> > State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right" to make >> > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as long as >> > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and >> > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights". >> >> > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated "Rights" >> > are you lacking ?? >> >> > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each. Then we >> > can discuss it. >> >> > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate (remember, >> > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest >> > discussion. >> >> > -- >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
