DOMA is very much Constitutional. ----------------------------------------------
The courts say otherwise. But tell you what. If DOMA is constitutional, then why isn't the Massachusetts law unconstitutional? On Jan 8, 11:55 am, Keith In Köln <[email protected]> wrote: > DOMA is very much Constitutional, This is where folks try and redefine the > term and concept of marriage, which is a ecclisastical function. Tom and > most militant Gays who wish to force their lifestyle down Americans' > proverbial throats, (Note how Tom defined and described the term "Gay" > above, yet a few days ago was attempting to claim that the term, "Gay" had > nothing at all to do with sexuality) want to redefine the term and concept > of marriage, in order to force their secularist beliefs upon the American > public. > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:27 AM, GregfromBoston <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Tell the president. I did > > > On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, Greg. > > > > I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional. > > > > On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is unconstitutional. > > > > It IS. > > > > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Markie Mark- > > > > >> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated. > > > > >> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th Century, > > "gay" > > > >> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had nothing to > > do > > > >> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to > > same-gendered > > > >> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender relationships at > > > >> that > > > >> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all, as the > > > >> term > > > >> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was rarely > > > >> ever > > > >> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private encounters > > between > > > >> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution does, > > however, > > > >> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any citizen is > > > >> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and > > > >> subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are > > citizens of > > > >> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No ) State > > shall > > > >> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or > > immunities > > > >> of > > > >> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State > > > >> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or > > > >> property, without due > > > >> process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person within its > > > >> jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the laws." > > > >> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of gays in > > the > > > >> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and discriminatory. > > > > >> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in etymology and > > the > > > >> Constitution enlightens you somewhat. > > > > >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE > > > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> > Tommy, > > > > >> > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that Gays > > > >> > (etc) do not have. > > > > >> > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them. Just > > what > > > >> > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that others > > > >> > have. > > > > >> > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be > > granted > > > >> > on a State level. > > > > >> > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different > > "privileges" > > > >> > and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are not now > > nor > > > >> > were they ever meant to be, "Rights". > > > > >> > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being that > > which > > > >> > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I would > > > >> > NEVER live in Texas) > > > > >> > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use laws, > > > >> > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL vary from > > > >> > State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right" to make > > > >> > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as long > > as > > > >> > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and > > > >> > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights". > > > > >> > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated > > "Rights" > > > >> > are you lacking ?? > > > > >> > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each. Then > > we > > > >> > can discuss it. > > > > >> > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate > > (remember, > > > >> > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest > > > >> > discussion. > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > >> > * Visit our other community > > > >> > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > > >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > >> -- > > > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > > >> Have a great day, > > > >> Tommy- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > > * Visit our other community > > > > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > -- > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > > Have a great day, > > > Tommy- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community > > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
