Guten Morgen Tom, Please show me in the United States Code, where the term, "Marriage" has been codified.
I'll wait right here. KeithInKöln On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > Wrong again, Keithie Keith Keith. > > I suggest you take a good look at the 14th Amendment again, and at the > recent court rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, and you will see that you are > incorrect. > > Civil marriage is not Religious marriage, and I suggest you get that > simple concept through your thick offensive anti-gay animus filled > homophobic skull. > > As long as the government codifies civil marriage, all citizens must > be included in those laws equally regardless of gender. Anything less > is unconstitutional, discriminatory, and unjust. Churches are then > free to bless those civil marriages or not as they choose. There are > plenty of Progressive churches that will. > > You are repeating your false Reich wing spin, Lil' Keithie Keith. > > On 1/8/11, Keith In Köln <[email protected]> wrote: > > DOMA is very much Constitutional, This is where folks try and redefine > the > > term and concept of marriage, which is a ecclisastical function. Tom and > > most militant Gays who wish to force their lifestyle down Americans' > > proverbial throats, (Note how Tom defined and described the term "Gay" > > above, yet a few days ago was attempting to claim that the term, "Gay" > had > > nothing at all to do with sexuality) want to redefine the term and > concept > > of marriage, in order to force their secularist beliefs upon the American > > public. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:27 AM, GregfromBoston > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Tell the president. I did > >> > >> On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Yes, Greg. > >> > > >> > I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional. > >> > > >> > On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is unconstitutional. > >> > > It IS. > >> > > >> > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Markie Mark- > >> > > >> > >> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated. > >> > > >> > >> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th Century, > >> "gay" > >> > >> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had nothing > >> > >> to > >> do > >> > >> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to > >> same-gendered > >> > >> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender relationships > >> > >> at > >> > >> that > >> > >> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all, as > >> > >> the > >> > >> term > >> > >> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was > >> > >> rarely > >> > >> ever > >> > >> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private encounters > >> between > >> > >> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution does, > >> however, > >> > >> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any citizen > >> > >> is > >> > >> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United States, > and > >> > >> subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are > >> citizens of > >> > >> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No ) State > >> shall > >> > >> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or > >> immunities > >> > >> of > >> > >> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State > >> > >> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or > >> > >> property, without due > >> > >> process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person within > >> > >> its > >> > >> jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the > laws." > >> > >> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of gays > in > >> the > >> > >> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and discriminatory. > >> > > >> > >> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in etymology > >> > >> and > >> the > >> > >> Constitution enlightens you somewhat. > >> > > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE > >> > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > Tommy, > >> > > >> > >> > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that > Gays > >> > >> > (etc) do not have. > >> > > >> > >> > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them. Just > >> what > >> > >> > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that > >> > >> > others > >> > >> > have. > >> > > >> > >> > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be > >> granted > >> > >> > on a State level. > >> > > >> > >> > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different > >> "privileges" > >> > >> > and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are not now > >> nor > >> > >> > were they ever meant to be, "Rights". > >> > > >> > >> > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being that > >> which > >> > >> > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I > would > >> > >> > NEVER live in Texas) > >> > > >> > >> > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use laws, > >> > >> > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL vary > >> > >> > from > >> > >> > State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right" to > >> > >> > make > >> > >> > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as > long > >> as > >> > >> > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and > >> > >> > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights". > >> > > >> > >> > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated > >> "Rights" > >> > >> > are you lacking ?? > >> > > >> > >> > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each. > Then > >> we > >> > >> > can discuss it. > >> > > >> > >> > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate > >> (remember, > >> > >> > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest > >> > >> > discussion. > >> > > >> > >> > -- > >> > >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> > >> > For options & help seehttp:// > groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> > > >> > >> > * Visit our other community > >> > >> > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > <http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >> > >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> > >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> > >> Have a great day, > >> > >> Tommy- Hide quoted text - > >> > > >> > >> - Show quoted text - > >> > > >> > > -- > >> > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> > > >> > > * Visit our other community > >> > > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ <http://www.politicalforum.com/>< > http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >> > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> > Have a great day, > >> > Tommy- Hide quoted text - > >> > > >> > - Show quoted text - > >> > >> -- > >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> > >> * Visit our other community at > >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ <http://www.politicalforum.com/>< > http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >> > > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community at > > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
