Move along folks.....Nothing here to see...... This is pretty much covered in the article that I initially posted. Nevertheless, there are billboards around Tehran calling for the end-all destruction of Israel, that are sponsored by the Iranian government!
>From your article: "Mr. Meridor also pointed out that Iran’s leaders have continued to deny Israel’s right to exist and used highly inflammatory terms to describe the state. After Ayatollah Khameneicompared Israel to a cancerous tumor<http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-says-it-launched-satellite/2012/02/03/gIQARNuDmQ_story.html>in February adding, it “should be cut off” Mr. Meridor noted those remarks were echoed by the president just last month. “Israel is unnatural, it will not exist, it’s on the verge of collapse,” Mr. Meridor said. “When you hear this from these people, you need to take it seriously.” On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:49 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > At 06:43 AM 9/17/2012, you wrote: > > Once again, the likes of Sheldon Richman and Justin Raimondo (through > Antiwar.com, which is where Richman chooses to obtain his "facts" from) > try to pervert the truth. I assume, (although it's hard to understand > especially Raimondo's goal in anything....In Raimondo's case, he's just a > goofy crackpot who like to hear himself talk and see himself in print) that > the goal here is to portray the American government as insistent on > attacking Iran, and that whole "Blood For Oil" theory that both love so > much......Needless to say, that Richman's and Raimondo's very existence > depend upon petroelum products, from the food that they inhale to the > nasty drawers on their backsides. > > Here are but just a few of the examples of: "Iranian leader[s] > threaten[ing] Israel with annihilation" > > > > > April 17, 2012, *7:11 pm > **Israeli Minister Agrees Ahmadinejad Never Said Israel ‘Must Be Wiped > Off the Map’ > *By ROBERT MACKEY <http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/author/robert-mackey/> > > http://youtu.be/Rb7pemOiO2s > > *Updated | Wednesday | 4:43 p.m. *In a reminder that Persian rhetoric is > not always easy for English-speakers to interpret, a senior Israeli > official has acknowledged that Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, never > actually said that Israel “must be wiped off the map.” > > Those words were attributed to Mr. Ahmadinejad in > 2005<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html>, > in English translations of his > speech<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/weekinreview/30iran.html?pagewanted=all>to > a “World Without Zionism” conference that October. As my colleague Ethan > Bronner reported the next > year<https://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/weekinreview/11bronner.html>, > one problem was translating a metaphorical turn of phrase in Persian that > has no exact English equivalent there was, for instance, no mention of a > map and there was a heated debate about whether the original statement > was a threat or a prediction. > > Last week, Teymoor Nabili of Al Jazeera suggested during an interview > with Dan Meridor <http://youtu.be/Rb7pemOiO2s?t=3m53s>, Israel’s minister > of intelligence and atomic energy, that Mr. Ahmadinejad’s rhetorical > flourish had been misinterpreted. “This idea that Iran wants to wipe Israel > out,” Mr. Nabili said, “now that’s a common trope that is put about by a > lot of people in Israel, a lot of people in the United States, but as we > know Ahmadinejad didn’t say that he plans to exterminate Israel, nor did he > say that Iran’s policy is to exterminate Israel.” > > In response, Mr. Meridor said that Mr. Ahmadinejad and Iran’s ruling > cleric, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, had said repeatedly “that Israel is an > unnatural creature, it will not survive. They didn’t say, ‘We’ll wipe it > out,’ you’re right, but, ‘It will not survive.’ ” > > Mr. Meridor also pointed out that Iran’s leaders have continued to deny > Israel’s right to exist and used highly inflammatory terms to describe the > state. After Ayatollah Khamenei compared Israel to a cancerous > tumor<http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-says-it-launched-satellite/2012/02/03/gIQARNuDmQ_story.html>in > February adding, it “should be cut off” Mr. Meridor noted those > remarks were echoed by the president just last month. “Israel is unnatural, > it will not exist, it’s on the verge of collapse,” Mr. Meridor said. “When > you hear this from these people, you need to take it seriously.” > > As the Guardian columnist Jonathan Steele explained in > 2006<http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/jun/02/comment.usa>, > a more direct translation of Mr. Ahmadinejad’s remarks would be: “this > regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time,” echoing a > statement once made by the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, > Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. > > In an English > translation<http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1510.htm>three days > after the speech in 2005, the Middle East Media Research > Institute, or Memri which was founded by a former Israeli intelligence > officer rendered the sentence in a similar way: “Imam [Khomeini] said: > ‘This regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the > pages of history.’” > > In an interview with The Lede on Tuesday, Hooman Majd, an Iranian-American > writer whose father was an ambassador under the Shah, pointed out that Mr. > Ahmadinejad had slightly misquoted Ayatollah Khomeini, using the Persian > word for “page” instead of a similar-sounding word for “scene or stage.” > > Mr. Majd, who once did a cameo as Mr. Ahmadinejad’s > translator<http://www.observer.com/2006/10/mahmoud-and-me/>at the United > Nations, also noted that in the original speech, the Iranian > president had argued that while the end of Israeli rule over Jerusalem, the > third holiest city in Islam, might seem impossible to imagine, the end of > the Shah’s rule and the collapse of the Soviet Union both proved that > change on that scale was possible. > > The author, who recently spent time in Tehran, suggested that Mr. > Ahmadinejad has perhaps made so little effort to explain that he was > misquoted because he relishes his image as a sworn enemy of Israel, and > would not want to be seen as stepping back from even threatening remarks he > did not make. > > Still, over the years, the original misinterpretation of Mr. Ahmadinejad’s > remarks has been so often repeated that it has become a kind of shorthand. > “In my conversations with Americans,” Mr. Majd said, very often they > respond to the name Ahmadinejad by saying, “He wants to eliminate Israel.” > > Mr. Majd added that reformers inside Iran call Mr. Ahmadinejad’s posturing > “very damaging,” and blame his repeated and quite accurately translated > statements denying the Holocaust, “for inflaming this Iranophobia that > exists in the West.” > > Although there is general agreement now among translators and scholars > that Mr. Ahmadinejad did not commit his country to the project of > destroying the state of Israel in that 2005 speech, the phrase that was > wrongly attributed to him then remains so firmly rooted in the popular > imagination that it is frequently used as evidence of Iran’s genocidal > intentions. > > During a visit to the White House last month, on the eve of the Jewish > festival of Purim, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel presented > President Obama with a copy of the Book of Esther, which recounts the > tale of a Persian leader who wanted to annihilate the > Jews<http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0307/Netanyahu-gives-Obama-the-Book-of-Esther.-Biblical-parable-for-nuclear-Iran>. > “Then, too, they wanted to wipe us out,” Mr. Netanyahu told the > president<http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-tells-obama-i-have-yet-to-decide-whether-to-attack-iran-1.416711> > . > > In January, Ehud Barak, the Israeli defense minister, told a New York > Times Magazine > writer<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/magazine/will-israel-attack-iran.html?pagewanted=all>: > “The Iranians are, after all, a nation whose leaders have set themselves a > strategic goal of wiping Israel off the map.” > > Last year, after President Obama told the United Nations General > Assembly<http://youtu.be/RKbOOVsCom4?t=50s>that Israel, “looks out at a world > where leaders of much larger nations > threaten to wipe it off of the map,” Glenn Kessler, the editor of The > Washington Post’s Fact-Checker blog, > criticized<http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-ahmadinejad-really-say-israel-should-be-wiped-off-the-map/2011/10/04/gIQABJIKML_blog.html>everyone > “who has blithely repeated the phrase,” including himself. > > http://youtu.be/RKbOOVsCom4 > > > In his post, Mr. Kessler reported that the picture gets murkier when those > words from 2005 are set against other Iranian propaganda: > > Karim Sadjadpour, an Iranian specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for > International Peace, notes that Iranian government entities began to erect > billboards and signs with the “wipe off” phrase in English. Joshua > Teitelbaum<http://jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DBID=1&TMID=610&LNGID=1&FID=443&PID=0&IID=2685>of > the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs compiled an interesting > collection of photographs of these banners, such as one on the building > that houses reserve military forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard > Corps. “Israel should be wiped out of the face of the world,” the sign > reads in English. > > As Mr. Kessler noted, Mr. Teitelbaum’s report, “written from a pro-Israel > perspective,” includes several images of similar statements on banners in > Iran. One of them, described as a screen grab taken from an Iranian > satellite channel in 2003, during the rule of Iran’s reformist president, > Mohammad Khatami, showed a banner on a missile at a military parade in > Tehran <http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/sep/23/iran> that seemed to > echo Ayatollah Khomeini’s words. According to the translation provided by > the author, that banner read: “Israel must be uprooted and wiped off [the > pages of] history.” > > > http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/israeli-minister-agrees-ahmadinejad-never-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/ > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
