What "Muzzies" have we killed for oil?
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>wrote: > we are dependent upon the oil from the region. > --- > so you condone imperialist policies in the middle east and killing muzzies > for oil. > ok. > > On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:34:10 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > >> Good Morning Plain Ol'! >> >> First, I love Fort Sumter! I hope ya'll had a good time while down in >> Charleston, one of my favorite cities! >> >> Finally, I knew when I was typing that line that you would respond, and >> that statement by me does not really reflect what I meant to convey. >> >> It is in the our national interests to keep the Suez Canal open, as well >> as the Straights of Hormuz, not to mention that it is in the the United >> States' as well as it's European allies' interests to have a stable Egypt >> and Middle East. Whether you like it, or don't like it; like crack >> addicts, we are dependent upon the oil from the region. >> >> Any other view is non-sensical and "Isolationist". >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:00 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> until we have another government which is more decisive and influential >>> --- >>> kit ... always the interventionist. >>> the egyptians barely evaded a civil war even with a meddling US >>> government giving them military aid to the tune of $1.3 BILLION of our >>> tax dollars each year. >>> >>> fwiw - I just visited ft. sumpter. it was an excellent reminder of US >>> intervention. >>> >>> >>> On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:45:30 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Plain Ol'! >>>> >>>> (Long Time.....No Talk To! At least it seems that way to me!) >>>> >>>> I watched the demonstrations in Egypt with rapt attention and literally >>>> with amazement. I have been following the conditions in Egypt for the last >>>> year or so, since Morsi's election; and no doubt the living conditions >>>> and standard of living has deteriorated rapidly, on a number of fronts. >>>> I've heard reports that if the same trends continued, the Nation would be >>>> suffering from serious food shortages and would not be able to feed itself >>>> by the end of 2013. >>>> >>>> I also remember hearing a number of Egyptians interviewed a little >>>> over a year ago who were not necessarily enthralled with Morsi and the >>>> Egyptian Brotherhood, but like us, many chose the Muslim Brotherhood and >>>> Morsi as "the lesser of the three or four evils/other choices". >>>> >>>> If anything, the Egyptian Military seems to be the one, stabilizing >>>> force through at least the contemporary history of Egypt. Through the >>>> 1940s, and Nassir, the military has been relatively in control of Egypt, >>>> and if anything its conflict with Israel was a unifying force. >>>> >>>> I don't think that anyone in the Middle East has any respect for the >>>> Obama Administration. If we can just keep a low profile until we have >>>> another government which is more decisive and influential, I dare say that >>>> is would be in the best interests of the United States. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:34 PM, plainolamerican >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> No transition to democracy comes without difficulty, but in the end it >>>>> must stay true to the will of the people. >>>>> --- >>>>> please examine your motives carefully. >>>>> democracy is not the answer. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, July 8, 2013 8:23:44 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I just left this on Bare Naked Islam's comment section: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a conservative libertarian, and abhor most all of the Obama >>>>>> Administration's national and foreign policy actions and decisions. I >>>>>> also >>>>>> salute the Blog, "Bare Naked Islam"; and find most of the articles >>>>>> enlightening and thought provoking. >>>>>> >>>>>> This article however regarding the Obama Administration's statement >>>>>> regarding the military coup of Egyptian President Morsi is misleading >>>>>> and >>>>>> taken out of context. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's the Obama Administration's actual statement: >>>>>> >>>>>> As I have said since the Egyptian Revolution, the United States >>>>>> supports a set of core principles, including opposition to violence, >>>>>> protection of universal human rights, and reform that meets the >>>>>> legitimate >>>>>> aspirations of the people. The United States does not support particular >>>>>> individuals or political parties, but we are committed to the democratic >>>>>> process and respect for the rule of law. Since the current unrest in >>>>>> Egypt >>>>>> began, we have called on all parties to work together to address the >>>>>> legitimate grievances of the Egyptian people, in accordance with the >>>>>> democratic process, and without recourse to violence or the use of force. >>>>>> >>>>>> The United States is monitoring the very fluid situation in Egypt, >>>>>> and we believe that ultimately the future of Egypt can only be determined >>>>>> by the Egyptian people. Nevertheless, we are deeply concerned by the >>>>>> decision of the Egyptian Armed Forces to remove President Morsy and >>>>>> suspend >>>>>> the Egyptian constitution. I now call on the Egyptian military to move >>>>>> quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically >>>>>> elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and >>>>>> transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President >>>>>> Morsy >>>>>> and his supporters. Given today’s developments, I have also directed the >>>>>> relevant departments and agencies to review the implications under U.S. >>>>>> law >>>>>> for our assistance to the Government of Egypt. >>>>>> The United States continues to believe firmly that the best >>>>>> foundation for lasting stability in Egypt is a democratic political order >>>>>> with participation from all sides and all political parties —secular and >>>>>> religious, civilian and military. During this uncertain period, we expect >>>>>> the military to ensure that the rights of all Egyptian men and women are >>>>>> protected, including the right to peaceful assembly, due process, and >>>>>> free >>>>>> and fair trials in civilian courts. Moreover, the goal of any political >>>>>> process should be a government that respects the rights of all people, >>>>>> majority and minority; that institutionalizes the checks and balances >>>>>> upon >>>>>> which democracy depends; and that places the interests of the people >>>>>> above >>>>>> party or faction. The voices of all those who have protested peacefully >>>>>> must be heard – including those who welcomed today’s developments, and >>>>>> those who have supported President Morsy. In the interim, I urge all >>>>>> sides >>>>>> to avoid violence and come together to ensure the lasting restoration of >>>>>> Egypt’s democracy. >>>>>> >>>>>> No transition to democracy comes without difficulty, but in the end >>>>>> it must stay true to the will of the people. An honest, capable and >>>>>> representative government is what ordinary Egyptians seek and what they >>>>>> deserve. 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