On 16/05/24 23:40, Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users wrote:
Dnia 16.05.2024 o godz. 12:05:52 Peter via Postfix-users pisze:
On my side the email is accepted from here, and relayed, Rspamd
does sign it, and Postfix's last message in the log is a message
sent delivered, and removed from my queue. I check my test Gmail
account, and the message is indeed there, but Gmail has placed it
in the spam folder. I check the headers of said message, an SPF
and DKIM both pass.

I am open to suggestions.

It's probably just IP reputation and you need to let it build up
with google, but see:

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126

Not necessarily, it may be as well related to domain reputation. And
sometimes no "build up" can help, Google just "dislikes" you and thinks
you're a spammer.

...

I described the whole story on my blog and was contacted by several people
who said they have the same problem. Also, on the "mailop" mailing list for
mail server operators, similar problems were reported multiple times (I also
of course reported mine there). So neither you nor I are the only one with
this issue...

Now, since maybe a half year, I don't have this problem anymore - so maybe
it is gone for good. But nobody can guarantee that.

We can only say that it's just "Google doing Google things"...

Indeed, at the end of the day google is a black box, they don't tell you how their anti-spam system works and it often times doesn't work.

None of this changes the correct approach to take initially. The above link I gave has lots of information directly from google about what they say you need to be doing and how to troubleshoot issues and how to contact them if need be. I do realize that there are many many instances of people who have jumped through those hoops and have nothing to show for it, but unfortunately those hoops is the best answer I can give to someone who is having issues.


Peter
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