On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 09:51:49 -0400
Jim Seymour via Postfix-users <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 08:35:35 +0100
> Sad Clouds <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 17:25:41 -0400
> > Jim Seymour via Postfix-users <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > > How is anybody to know an LLM/AI did that vs. a carbon-based
> > > life-form?  
> > 
> > Easy, if I write the code then it comes from me, so no copyright
> > issues. Of cause a malicious person can plagiarise and submit other
> > peoples' code, but that is a different issue.
> [snip]
> 
> You're not entirely correct on your first point. As to your 2nd point:
> What's the difference between a bit of plagiarized code being
> generated by a silicon- vs. a carbon-based entity?
> 
> Answer: There is none.
> 
As I mentioned previously - it is a different issue. A malicious person
can copy and paste copyrighted code, but I would not employ or work
with such people. If your company has a policy of no AI generated code
and you trust your developers, then you avoid copyright issues. There
are no such guarantees with AI:
  1) generated code could be a carbon copy of already copyrighted work.
  2) in some jurisdictions, AI generated code may not be copyrighted by
     you nor your company. Hence you may not own and protect this IP.

> And you missed my point entirely. If I submit a piece of code: How is
> anybody to know whether I authored it entirely on my own, employed
> the assistance of an LLM/AI, or simply had an LLM/AI generate it
> entirely (aka: "vibe-coded")?
> 
> Answer: They can't.
>
It is to do with trust. Both people and AI can lie, but when you work
with people and you know and trust them, then you can be confident in
their morals and ethics. The same is virtually impossible with AI as it
lies to you all the time. However if you allow random people to
submit/commit code into your repo, then you end up with issues
like liblzma backdoor (CVE-2024-3094).

> >From one of Wietse's comments I suspect this thread will soon be
> persona non grata here, so these will be my last remarks on the
> issue.
>
I found his last reply to my email to be rude and obnoxious. I did not
say anything unreasonable, so not sure why felt he needed to be this
way. May be he was just having a bad day...
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