Am 07.05.2013 14:02, schrieb Vincent Lefevre:
> On 2013-05-07 10:54:06 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> it is common practice to not accept mails from hosts without a
>> valid PTR
> 
> A PTR is not associated with a host, but with an IP address. That's
> important because mail may be sent from different IP addresses

and nay IP address has a A-Record and a PTR
period

> depending on the recipient or other factors. And it seems that
> some users forget to set up a PTR for all their IPv6 addresses.
> This apparently includes Debian's mailing-list server.

that's their problem

>> and you can ignore this but you also need to understand the the
>> rules from which machines i and many others accept mail are not up
>> to you
> 
> I agree, but I repeat that I cannot change the config of other
> users. From what I can see in my mail archive, it is *not* safe
> to blindly reject mail from IPs without a valid PTR. At least
> currently

and because this attitude they are not enforced to fix their
setups - if any MTA would reject the mails the problem would
not exist since years because even the dumbest admin would
realize it if any outgoing message fails

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