Quanah Gibson-Mount:
> --On Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:27 PM -0500 Wietse Venema 
> <wie...@porcupine.org> wrote:
> 
> > Really, it is as simple as a user-land program that calls open()
> > and gets access denied by the kernel. If that is not 100% reproducible
> > then you have a flaky kernel, a flaky file system, or some "security"
> > system with a flaky implementation.
> 
> Hm, fairly certainly we only see this on Ubuntu OSes, which I know does 
> handle userland differently than RHEL based OSes.  Our production servers 
> are all based off of RHEL, and never have experienced this problem, even 
> though they should trigger it every few weeks.

If some breakage is specific to one software distribution, then I
would investigate the distribution, instead of blaming the messenger.

You could investigate whether AppArmor has a problem with set-gid
write permissions.

        Wietse

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