On Mon, 20 Feb 2023, Wietse Venema wrote:

Doug Denault:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2023, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:

On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:35:43PM -0500, Doug Denault wrote:

With my setup no warning is deferred errors such as 'time out' or
'Connection refused' until the message is delete from the queue.

I added:

   delay_warning_time = 8h

to main.cf. This made no difference so I assume an additional setting is
required, but I could not find anything.

This setting only affects *new* messages.  Messages already in the queue
will not elicit the warning.  There's a queue-file record for that...

I'm sorry I was not clear. New messages do not get the warning.

This is a FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p7. postfix 3.6.2_1

Postfix does not immediately send "delayed mail" warnings as soon
as a message exceeds the warning time limit. That would not scale.

Instead, Postfix attempts to deliver a message, and when that attempt
fails, it sends a "delayed mail" warning message once.

Thank you. If I understand your answer, I do not think that is what I am seeing. What is happening is an email that gets a 'time out' or some such will continuusly give deferred messages for five days and then, if I let things go that long, remove the email and send the bounce message.

A crrent example follows. I rotate logs daily so this gives a daily count of the number of messages.

bzgrep -c 7883F510EBC maillog maillog.?.bz2
maillog:18        -- today
maillog.0.bz2:42  -- 2/19
maillog.1.bz2:42  -- 2/18
maillog.2.bz2:42  -- 2/17
maillog.3.bz2:75  -- 2/16

The most current message (edited for privacy):

Feb 20 09:25:14 freeport postfix/qmgr[88969]: 7883F510EBC: 
from=<i...@domain1.com>, size=1943447, nrcpt=41 (queue active)
Feb 20 09:25:15 freeport postfix/smtp[67456]: 7883F510EBC: 
to=<some...@domain2.com>, relay=none, delay=329206,
     delays=329205/0.08/0.27/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to 
mcahd.com[10.86.238.4]:25: Connection refused)

The mailq output:

7883F510EBC 1943447 Thu Feb 16 13:58:29  i...@bcr-dc.com
           (connect to domain2.com[10.86.238.4]:25: Connection refused)
                                   some...@domain2.com

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