At 02:47 PM 12/12/2002 -0700, you wrote: ><snip> >What is the problem with what this guy did? Ok, yeah he got real upset. I >was pretty upset when all of this began too. > >Are you angry that he took action? I would agree that he went too far.
There is no problem, legally speaking, with what he did. He exercised his rights as he is given them, as all of us here in the USA do. The main problem is the logic of his arguments and his supposed why. He seems to think the world needs to conform exactly to his thoughts and wants. If I go to a website that has something I disagree with or dislike to the point it affects the usage of the site, I go somewhere else. Even when I do disagree with an article on LEM, it doesn't affect my usage of the rest of the site and isn't presented inch a way as to impugn the rest of the site. Following Bauer's logic, I should write to the companies selling new Mac hardware and warn them that LEM is suggesting ways to keep old hardware going, which might offend me and others who sell new Mac harrdware, and suggest they stop. Okay, bit of a stretch, but work with me here :) >Are you angry that they pulled out their money when they found out about >these articles? Well, you should think about that. People and companies >are not required to support ideas that they disagree with. And indeed they shouldn't. It's entirely within a company's right not to support LEM if they don't want to. However, one can still be annoyed with a company for pulling out only after someone ranted at them. Theoretically a company should be aware of what they're advertising on, and if they disagree with something posted they should pull out then - not after one guy writes to them about it. It makes it appear as though they're pulling out because of the complaint, not because they disagree with the content. If they do indeed disagree with the content, then they should and are fully in their rights to pull out. And it's fully in the rights of the website and its members boycott/express displeasure with the company for doing that. >The Moore articles are totally irresponsible in light of the times we are >living. It was recently reported that violence in America against Muslims, >Arabs, Persians, etc. has gone up something like 1000% since the September >attacks. The Moore articles and the ideas behind them are fuel for that >fire. The violence against Muslims is a problem with people and their self-control, not people who write articles. Nowhere in Moore's articles do I see him inciting any violence against Muslims. Blaming Moore for the violence is like blaming guns for gun violence rather than their users. >In asking us to boycott those businesses Mr. Knight is NOT asking us to >support his freedom of speech. He is asking us to support the content of >the articles in question. That is something I refuse to do. Well, that's your prerogative. No one is forcing you not to shop at the places that pulled out. It wouldn't be a free speech issue anyway unless this guy were going to the US government to try to shut down LEM as hate speech or something. The whole "Free Speech" thing is entirely for the government; private organizations can limit speech all they want more or less (overly simplifying it of course, but you get my point). I've found that in this world, sometimes you have to work with people and groups you don't agree with 100%. I don't write to supporters and advertisers of everything I slightly disagree with in an attempt to change the sites; I find a site I agree with more. Having said all that, it might now be a bad idea to set up a separate site, or at least a separate section on LEM, for philosophy and such. Protect the over-sensitive people like Bauer who just want nice, sterile discussion of Macintoshes without a bit of opinion. >Now, will someone PLEASE help me figure out why my pb1400's cd-rom is >draining the battery so fast. My thought: The battery isn't quite putting out the peak power it used to, so running the CD-ROM is draining it faster. Time for a new/rebuilt battery perhaps? Or does the 1400 have a conditioning program? >-tglaab And that's all I have to say on that. Regards, Scott Holder -- PowerBooks is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> PowerBooks list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:" Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com