Banyak motifnya, tapi hal ini sudah dilakukan beribu-ribu tahun dalam Kitab Perjanjian Lama, dan tidak satu ayat pun yang melarang. Bahkan ada juga yg percaya org Kreisten boleh POLIGAMI. http://www.truthbearer.org/ http://www.bfree.org/
Polygamy in the New Testament: Here is a small quote from a Christian (R.M.) who agrees with Polygamy: Hello, I was just reading your article on polygamy. I am a Christian who actually believes polygamy is a righteous form of marriage. Despite the modern secular church you probably usually see, there are Christians who are serious about God and Truth over men's traditions. Another small quote from a Christian Pastor who agrees with Polygamy: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:07:57 EDT Subject: Your statement on Polygamy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great article for the most part. I am a born-again Christian and a pastor who not only supports the Biblical teaching of polygamy but I also practice it. I have two wives and seven children so far.... Before I present the verses from the New Testament that allow polygamy, I first would like to prove to you that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the laws of the Old Testament, and did order his followers (the Christians as we call them) to follow the laws of the Old Testament: Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)" Christians always say as an excuse "Oh this law doesn't exist in the New Testament, it is only the Old Testament." Well, according to Matthew 5:17-18 above, we clearly see that Jesus honored the Old Testament, and forces Christians to follow the unmodified laws of it that have not been replaced by newer ones in the New Testament. The Old Testament as we clearly see above does indeed allow polygamy without a shadow of a doubt !!. There is not a single verse from the New Testament that prohibits polygamy. Christians usually mistakenly present the following verses from the Bible to prove that polygamy in the New Testament is not allowed: Matthew 19:1-12 "1. When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2. Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there. 3. Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" 4. "Haven't you read," he (Jesus) replied, "that at the beginning the Creator `made them male and female,' 5. and said, `For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh' ? 6. So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate." 7. "Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" 8. Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery." 10. The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry." 11. Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12. For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it." In the above verses, we see that Jesus was approached with a question about whether or not it is allowed for a man to divorce his wife in Matthew 19:3. Jesus immediately referred to the Old Testament for the answer in Matthew 19:4. He referred to Adam and Eve, one man and one woman. The Old Testament does talk about the story of Adam and Eve as one husband and one wife. However, the Old Testament which Jesus had referred to in Matthew 19:3 does allow polygamy. Also, when a man becomes a one flesh with his wife in Matthew 19:5-6, this doesn't mean that the man can't be one flesh with another woman. He can be one flesh with his first wife, and one flesh with his second wife, and one flesh with his third wife and so on.... To further prove this point, let us look at the following from the New Testament: Matthew 22:23-32 "23. That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 24. "Teacher," they said, "Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and have children for him. 25. Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26. The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27. Finally, the woman died. 28. Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?" 29. Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31. But about the resurrection of the dead--have you not read what God said to you, 32. `I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living." In Matthew 22:24-28, the Jews referred to Deuteronomy 25:5 from the Old Testament where it states that if a woman's husband dies, and she didn't have any kids from him, then she must marry his brother regardless whether he had a wife or not. When the Jews brought this situation up to Jesus in Matthew 22:24-28, Jesus did not prohibit at all for the childless widow to marry her husband's brother (even if he were married). Instead, Jesus replied to them by saying that we do not marry in heaven, and we will be like angels in heaven (Matthew 22:30). So in other words, if Jesus allowed for a widow to marry her former husband's brother even if he were married, then this negates the Christians' claim about the Bible prohibiting polygamy. A man can be one flesh with more than one woman. In the case of Matthew 22:24-28, the man can be one flesh with his wife, and one flesh with his brother's former wife. Also keep in mind that Exodus 21:10 allows a man to marry an infinite amount of women, and Deuteronomy 21:15 allows a man to marry more than one wife. rm_danardono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tidak mampu apa lagi ini? Tak mampu menahan diri untuk punya kekasih gelap? punya anak haram? diam2 menikahi wanita lain yang lebih segar, cantik dan muda? Ini moral apa ya? Ingatlah, wanita adalah kaum ibunda2 kita. Bukan makhluk pelampiasan hawa nafsu. Kalau belum mampu menikah, ya tunggu dulu, perdalam pengertian dan kasih dalam iman. Ibunda kita juga dinikahi ayah secara syah bukan? Ibunda kita juga kasih ayah satu2nya bukan? Salam RM D Hadinoto --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], RG Nur Rahmat wrote: > Kalau yang tidak mampu? Mesti munafik? Kalau negara baru saja habis berperang dimana banyak lelaki tewas di pertempuran? > > rm_danardono wrote: > > Solusinya? > > *** jangan punya istri muda > *** jangan punya anak diluar nikah > *** jangan lari nikah dengan yang lebih muda (juga yang lebih tua) > *** jangan beristeri lebih dari satu > > salam > > RM D Hadinoto > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], RG Nur Rahmat > wrote: > > Jadi kalau begitu, lebih baik one night stand saja..Free Sex, > masuk akal toh. Lebih menguntungkan dari segi finansial. Inikah > solusinya? > > ?? > > > > > > rm_danardono wrote: > > > > > > Teka teki dari Nur Rakmat: > > > > >>>Lebih sakit mana jika si bapak simpan isteri muda atau punya > anak > > diluar nikah? Atau malah si bapak lari dengan perempuan yg lebih > muda? > > > > Saya ingin coba jawab teka teki ini: > > > > a) isteri muda? Dia posisi hukumnya kalah terhadap isteri syah, > jadi > > forget her. Kalau menurut hukum Europa, tak berhak mendapat > warisan. > > Juga isteri simpanan ini harus tetap disimpan dilemari, sebab > > biasanya diasingkan oleh teman2. Kalau di Europa lho. Dan si > isteri > > muda ini di Europa tak punya status apa2, karena negara hanya > > mengakui satu isteri. Kalau di sue oleh si isteri sah, mati sang > > suami, sebab kawin sembunyi dendanya besar sekali. Isteri utama > > berhak menuntut seluruh harta, terutama rumah yang didiami. > > > > b) Anak diluar nikah? Tidak punya status hukum, jadi bukan saingan > > anak kandung. Di Europa, si bapak anak haram ini tetap harus bayar > > uang (alimente) pada si anak sampai anak ini dewasa, tetapi si > anak > > haram tak berhak mendapat warisan. Jadi bukan saingan anak kandung. > > > > c) Lari dengan yang lebih muda? Ini bisa terjadi di-mana2. Kadang2 > > juga lari dengan yang lebih tua, tapi jarang, apalagi kalau yang > > lebih tua sudah kempes dan ompong. Di Europa, dia tetap harus > bayar > > seumur hidup si isteri utama, dan anak2 dari isteri sah. Kecuali > > kalau si suami lari terus...tapi lama2 ya capek ah. > > > > > > > > Salam > > > > RM D Hadinoto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > so that's the main argument.let me put it this way.., bcs of men > > > uncontrolled lust for women..they just dont get enough for only > one > > > women..they have 2 option..having affair or poligamy..,right? so > a > > loyal > > > and faithfull husband re only a dream that exist in ''alice > > > wonderland''...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RG Nur > > Rahmat > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > o.com> > > cc: > > > Subject: Re: > > [ppiindia] Re: Mengharamkan Poligami dan > > > 10/12/2004 01:53 > > Menghalalkan > > > > > PM > > > > > Please respond > > to > > > > > ppiindia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lebih sakit mana jika si bapak simpan isteri muda atau punya > anak > > diluar > > > nikah? Atau malah si bapak lari dengan perempuan yg lebih muda? > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > realitanya..poligamy itu merugikan perempuan.., menyakitkan bagi > > > anak-anaknya,..mau dipoles dengan kata2 sedemikian bagus ato > > indahnya.., > > > berbicara soal tanggung jawab..itu ironis.., mungkin kalo tg jwb > > materi > > > bisa tp bgmn dengan tg jwb hati..? > > > man..come on.., it's impossible.. > > > > > > > > > Carla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > * > > ***** > > > Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. Menuju > > Indonesia yg > > > Lebih Baik, in Commonality & Shared Destiny. > www.ppiindia.shyper.com > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > * > > ***** > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > _ > > ____ > > > Mohon Perhatian: > > > > > > 1. 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