Dear Faruq,

i agree with you that we should condemn all act of violance regardless of
religions...
in Christianity..there're no such thing as radicals or fundies..,
personally i dont believe it..., if christian fundalism taught to hate
others or persecute others..i truly against them..and condemn such act..
and perhaps we re failed to emphatize with our fellow moslem abt their
feelings and their condition regarding pressures and things that they had
been thru, our lack of knowledge and personal judgement and more over our
trauma towards moslem ppl seems sometimes blinded our heart.., sometimes we
only see half of the probs not the whole picture.., we oftens  fails to see
the real issue but focus on the past-trauma. and sometimes we generalise
all moslem but failed to see them as a person, and as  our brothers and
sisters which part of the world, it's our ignorance too see beyond that in
fact moslem ppl also sufferred and they also hurt..,
therefore  for  all of those things,  please accept my deepest apology on
behalf of every Christian in this milis...
ur statement below is shown that to learn and accept differences re to
admit our own failures towards ppl which re different from us especially
moslem ppl.., it's like looking into the mirror and see our own
reflection.., thank you for the reminder..it's definitely a precious
lesson..for me especially..


Rgds,
Carla





                                                                           
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true misty, anda sibuk meminta kaum muslim moderat
untuk bersikap ini dan itu. sikap kami jelas mengutuk
setiap perilaku radikalisme dalam bentuk yg manapun
dan dalam level apapun: lokal maupun internasional.

sekarang anda di posisi mana? kristen moderat atau
militan? kalau moderat, terus apa yg anda lakukan
sebagai kristen moderat? sudahkah anda mengutuk
perilaku kalangan kristen fundamentalis?

to be honest, saya tidak melihat sikap kristen moderat
di sini yg well-informed dan pantas diajak diskusi dan
share common platform dalam menghadapi radikalisme
agama atau radikalisme penganut agama masing2.

saya tidak melihat kalangan kristen di sini yg tampak
terkesan moderat tapi ketika membahas, misalnya,
serangan invasi ilegal bush ke irak malah membela
habis2an. tak bersuara atas kasus skandal abu ghuraib,
tak bersuara ketika terjadi human right abuses di
guantanamo prison.

ada dua kemungkinan hal itu (kediaman rekan2 kristen)
atas fenomena di atas. pertama, mereka bukan moderat
dan sepaham dg garis kenan ideologi neokon bush.
kedua, mereka sebenarnya 'moderat' tapi ill-informed
atas fenomena internasional. kedua kemungkinan itu
sama2 buruk: sama2 tak layak diajak berwacana, karena
tak akan nyambung.

di sisi lain, dalam level lokal, ada kecenderungan yg
sama: kalangan kristen (saya tidak tahu apakah mereka
moderat atau fundamentalis) di milis ini yg terkesan
manja dan 'cerewet': terlalu banyak menuntut tanpa
sedikitpun memberi. sangat kritis pada islam dan
muslim, tapi terkesan tidur pada apa saja yg
dilakukan/diomongkan sesamanya.

mari kita kritis pada radikalisme yg dilakukan
siapapun, baik oleh yg seagama dg kita atau tidak.
kalau common platform hanya didasarkan kesamaan agama,
pembicaraan tidak akan pernah berakhir dg
common-platform berdasarkan kesamaan bangsa.

salam,


--- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, Geger Indonesiary
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wrote:
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>dan saya herannya semua manusia di miliis ini yang
mengaku
>islam moderat diam saja, tdk pernah kongkrit. kasus
dewa,
>kasus keganasan FPI, ambon, poso, semuanya diam.
dengan
>komentar mereka tdk mewakili islam itu sendiri.
...


Faruq Saniyasnain
(Manchester)





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