Sorry to dig up a dead thread, but I was away on vacation last week and
could not respond in a proper manner via BlackBerry.

I've prepared a spreadsheet detailing just how much power a modern Dell is
using at various times. See: <http://getty.net/gimps/dells.xls> for power
use on a Dell OptiPlex GX 270 small form factor computer at 3.2 GHz and 1 GB
of RAM.

Unfortunately due primarily to the noise of the fans, and partially due to
the heat, I have not been able to deploy a GIMPS client in our computer
labs. In an amphitheater with 102 machines, all on top of the tables, it
gets so loud with PrimeNT running that you can't have a conversation at a
normal level.

I'm close to deploying a system that will start the prime service shortly
after the labs close and stop the prime service shortly before the labs open
to avoid the noise problem. Running PrimeNT at 104.5 hours a week on 350
2.8+ GHz machines is better then not running it at all!

-Marc

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Marc Getty           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Instructional & Information Technology
Temple University, College of Liberal Arts
Cell:   215-962-5603     Fax: 215-204-3731
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Stephan Grupp
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Prime] hot CPU!

That's interesting about the Dells. What I have noted (especially in the
smaller case Optiplex systems), is that the fan noise is intolerably
loud when P95 is running. Crack the clamshell case a bit, and the fan
speed and noise drops considerably. I'm not sure that makes things
WORSE, as the air path is still through the duct and over the heatsink,
whether the case is closed or cracked open.

These high end P4 systems generate a LOT of heat. I wouldnt be
surprised if the CPU's go down a little sooner running P95 than they
would just grinding idle.


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/05 1:27 AM >>>
Jeff Woods wrote:
> At 2/16/2005 11:56 PM, Jud McCranie wrote:
> 
>> Is a 3GHz P4 supposed to be this hot?  Is it bad for the machine?
> 
> 
> Yes, and yes.   I have found that without additional CPU case fans, a

> fully-laden CPU (as with Prime95) gets too hot for JUST the power
supply 
> fan to circulate enough air.   You need additional case fans... or
you 
> need to run with the case OPEN (side panel off) to allow the hot air

> that the CPU fan is pulling away to dissipate.

Dell P4 systems don't HAVE a internal CPU heatsink fan.  they have a
large 
muffin fan on the back panel with a plastic air duct over the LARGE CPU
heat 
sink.  On the newer faster P4 systems, the heatsink is often fine vaned
copper.

opening the cover would make things WORSE as it would not force the air
to flow 
as engineered.     The cases on our Dell desktop "Optiplex" systems at
work 
hinge open and can't be "left off".




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