At 10:59 PM +0100 5/25/04, Eric Perlberg wrote: >Steve it's a bit tough to follow this thread as it keeps changing names....
>I guess what I have a hard time with in your explanation is your use of >absolutes and superlatives supporting advanced tools over i1 Photo/Match. It >kind of sounds to me like what I hear from the guys at the High End Audio >shop. They use a lot of similar superlatives over small differences. I assure you the differences we have seen have not been small. More important, they are the differences that we deal with in our tech support so they are differences that our customers notice. >I can't quite square your attitude that i1Photo/Match is so mediocre with >your equally enthusiastic web page at Chromix where you sell i1 photo. It is not as simple to say that it is mediocre. The Eye-One Photo/Match is a great combination of instrument and software (probably the best in its price range). That does not mean that it does not fail in some circumstances. No instrument / software combination is failsafe. The tools I referred to in my last email have more configuration options that allow them to work well in the instances where less expensive tools can fail. GretagMacbeth will be the first to say that there are quality and configuration differences between their products. I want to illustrate to people that there are significant advantages to other tools. If you want another analogy, think of automatic cameras. Are they crap? no. Can you get good pictures from them? yes, sometimes great. Are they used by Pros? not typically. Why? because pro-level cameras offer more configuration options that allow you to override the camera when it focuses, exposes, etc incorrectly. They can also offer a noticeable difference in quality. Do you have to pay more for them? yes. If you hire a pro photographer would you want them to use pro-level equipment?.... I suspect most would. > >I invite readers to draw their own conclusions. It doesn't seem like that >page makes anything like the points you made here at Prodig. In fact, >reading that page I'd get a very different impression. when you buy an automatic camera do they list all of its limitations? We do our best to ensure that we have clear, meaningful information on our site. We are also working to add comparison features as we go along. >___________________________________________ > >So for those of you who want to know what I offer, I give lots of support (I >think existing clients can vouch for this) and I can build profiles which do >what Chromix's web page cited above says. If however you want more than >this, I offer the NO WORRIES PLAN: I think you are totally overreacting to my previous posts. I have never specifically called you or your company out nor have I been commenting on your services directly. What I do know is how color management works, from the physics to the perceptual sciences to the technical application by the ICC. That is the information I have been presenting to this list. You, for some reason, have taken my technical information as personal attacks. > >In this plan you purchase three Stone Quay Studio Profiles for �105 (each >with a money back guarentee) > >Then you go to imaging review where you subscribe for a year for an >addittional �75 (If you're not familiar with Imaging Review, read more >here: http://www.imagingrevue.com/why/) > <snip> (is this really a forum for such blatant advertising? surely people can get this from your site?) >You also get another "free" profile from imaging review built by Andrew >Rodney. > >So for �180 you get 4 profiles (3 with money back guarentees) plus a years >worth of unlimited online support from industry leading specialists and >quality articles from most of the top names in the business. interesting plan. I guess you could defer a lot of your technical support this way. I am very familiar with this group of people and they definitely know their stuff. Not sure how they can support your profiles though. >Of course some of you have needs which transcend the capability of my humble >little business in which case I recommend you that you seek a colour >management consultant. Here I thought that's what you were offering... Perhaps I misunderstood. My main point was that profiling is a SERVICE. Technical support offered with a service IS consulting. That is my very point. Thanks for clearing up yours. Regards, Steve ________________________________________________________________________ o Steve Upton CHROMiX www.chromix.com o (hueman) 866.CHROMiX 206.985.6837 o ColorGear ColorThink ColorValet ColorSmarts ProfileCentral -- =============================================================== GO TO http://www.prodig.org for ~ GUIDELINES ~ un/SUBSCRIBING ~ ITEMS for SALE
