> >And some quotes attributed to King Arthur in Camelot: > > > >Violence is not strength. > >compassion is not weakness. > >revenge is the most worthless of causes. > > Of course, that's not really accurate. King Arthur was > fictional (at least as far I can be determined so far). So the attribution should > really go to the author who first wrote of King Arthur.
As it happens, I share these thoughts (and some other parts of King Arthur's reputed philosophy), but couldn't claim the wording as original because I knew I had heard them in Camelot, thus the attribution. I, perhaps incorrectly, assumed people here know something about the King Arthur story. Besides this story, history is loaded with legends and folklore, and parts that 'ring true' are passed on through the ages. Works like these ... I don't know if it matters as much who actually said them first, just that they be said and passed on. > Next, I think most people in the US hold these views. At > least in a general sense. But if that were the case, we wouldn't be in the jam we're in. > What you need to do is get on the Muslim, N. Korean, > etc blogs and tell THOSE people they need to embrace these principles. A quote from the Robert Fisk article I pointed to yesterday: "It's always been my view that the people of this part of the Earth would like some of our democracy. They would like a few packets of human rights off our supermarket shelves. They want freedom. But they want another kind of freedom - freedom from us." http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article1814843.ece I agree with him. From time to time someone will mention that we need to get to the "root causes" of the unrest we face today - but then anyone who has the temerity to point out that our (rulers) own meddling in their affairs, and belligerence towards them, goes to the root - is heckled and shouted down. > I'll bet you any amount of money that if those groups stop > their violence, threats, terrorism, etc, that peace would actually break out. I think it's clear that both sides have to stop at the same time, and the sooner the better. The only way I can see to do that is to strengthen the UN, an institution that, as regards the ME, has been emasculated by virtue of all those (some 42) UN resolutions intended to deal with Israel that were blocked by (only) America and Israel. Other countries of the world, and the ME in particular, took that to mean "one sided", thus unfair, and thus a contributing root cause for hostilities. There's also the PNAC philosophy factor, a profound statement calling for the use of military power to achieve (their) goals. This isn't a statement of an attitude that says "we'll make the world a better place so it's attractive to others", instead it's a statement of authority that literally begged a challenge - and it didn't fall on deaf ears. Bill > -Charlie _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
