Well if Creationism is ludicrous, where's the missing
link between ape and man?

I happen to believe in evolution and don't find it
troubling at all.  I believe Adam and Eve were a
parable, as well as Noah and the Ark.  This doesn't
disprove God in any way for me.



--- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Charlie,
> 
> What are you coming up next? That evolution has
> already been debunked too?
> 
> I hear all the time religious people claiming that
> there're plenty of
> "scientific" evidence pointing to criationism and
> that simply is not true.
> Criationism is a ludicrous lie.
> 
> I've watched the documentary "The God Who Wasn't
> there". There was no need
> for the movie to convince me, because I pretty much
> already knew what was in
> there.
> 
> I watched "Da Vinci Code" and found it very silly.
> You don't need to tell me
> it was a hollywood movie based on a "best-seller"
> fiction book.
> 
> But the "The God Who Wasn't there" is not fiction.
> It isn't even
> controversial, as it just shows information
> available elsewhere.
> 
> Before discarding the documentary, watch it first.
> Or are you scared on
> having to THINK FOR YOURSELF and find the truth?
> 
> HW
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/07, Charlie Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > At 03:13 AM 1/26/2007 -0200, Helio W. wrote:
> > >Charlie,
> > >
> > >Watch: http://www.thegodmovie.com
> > >
> > >Then think.
> >
> > I viewed the trailer. It appears it's a movie that
> claims Jesus never
> > existed.
> >
> > This attack on Christianity is not new. It has
> been introduced, debunked,
> > re-introduced, re-debunked many times in the past
> 200 or so years
> > (starting
> > in the late 1700's).
> >
> > You may find it interesting to note that the
> premise that Jesus never
> > existed is not introduced by historical scholars.
> Usually philosopher's,
> > atheists, anti-Christian groups, etc, are the ones
> that like to broach
> > this
> > topic. I think the reason this is the case is that
> there is just way too
> > much historical evidence that supports Jesus
> Christ's life on Earth. As
> > far
> > as I know, there are no accepted scholarly claims
> that Jesus did not
> > exist.
> >
> > Of course, beyond his existence, the arguments
> immediately start in about
> > whether or not he actually did miraculous things,
> what he actually said,
> > etc. That's where scholars will start to disagree;
> but they disagree
> > primarily because they can't agree on initial
> premises. E.g. some scholars
> > flat out refuse to believe any type of 'miracle'
> can ever occur. So,
> > solely
> > because of that supposition, they refuse to
> believe most of the recorded
> > events in Christ's life. To me that sounds pretty
> silly and intellectually
> > dishonest. It would seem better to just evaluate
> things based on what was
> > written and the context it was written within.
> Anyway... I'm
> > digressing....
> >
> > I've been through many studies of Biblical, and
> Christian, criticism; the
> > comparisons of Christian teachings to
> Greek/Babalonian/Sumerian mythology;
> > the comparisons of religions; historical research
> and Biblical
> > authenticity; and so on. So when movies like the
> above come out, I don't
> > find them very interesting (unless they purport to
> have discovered
> > something 'new' - which this one does not as far
> as I can tell). And so I
> > just file them under the "Da Vinci Code" category
> of fiction or "Christian
> > attack" pieces.
> >
> > Hmmm.... That sounded pretty arrogant. I was going
> to go back and delete
> > part of that last paragraph, but I decided to
> leave it. I don't mean to
> > sound arrogant, but I don't want to give the
> impression that I'm
> > discarding
> > opposing views flippantly.
> >
> > -Charlie
> >
> >
> >
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