Pete, Thank you Paul, I did leave an important "w" out of the word two.
You just confirm my points about bad parenting! The problem shouldn't be discovered as an after event. It is far more difficult to solve now that the inane activities of the youngsters is somewhat engrained in society. along with the current culture for drinking until you literally collapse in a heap. We need to get back to not letting the problem occur in the first place. Hold the parents completely responsible for the children's actions outside the home would be a first start and maybe bring back some form of instant corporal punishment which will be quick to administer instead of choking up the courts with legal cases which are heard months and months after the event. In my early childhood, the local policeman would crack you around the ear if he found you up to no good and then he would march you back home where your father would probably do the same. Simple easy punishment. Not now though, we instantly turn to the rich kids in the legal profession if a teacher or policeman lays a finger on anyone. Stupidity, to say the least. Let the good guys stand up for once and use common sense. That doesn't mean child beating or stoning (I wish sometimes!) but a bit of common sense backed up with political will and rights for the victim as opposed to the offender. Justice needs to be seen to be done. Once, and if, the "silent majority" start to mobilize themselves to this effect the changes will be dramatic. Just as over here, when Drink Driving was the norm and not considered a real crime back in the mid 70's it is now deemed to be socially unacceptable because the politicians listened to the victims of drink drive crime for a change as opposed to the human rights crew demanding the right to get p*ssed and kill someone. The same thing COULD happen regarding youth violence, drug taking, scrounging off the state etc etc. Maybe making voting compulsory would help, as long as you could vote for "nobody". If the "Nobodies" won, then maybe the politicians might start to listen for a change. I do know however, that as a British patriot through and through, I don't want to live here if the current trends continue as they have over the last few years. I live in hope though that wheel will turn full circle as it inevitable does and somebody in government will realize what a shambles we have made of society in the last half century and bring back some good 'ole British values of fairness, tolerance and helpfulness to our culture. God knows we could do with them in addition to less crap TV from your side of the pond which always seems to cater to the lowest common denominator e.g Mr Springer et al. The only saving grace in adopting some of the lifestyles from your side of the pond is that Fat B*stards can't run very fast to escape being caught when commiting crime. Dave Crozier _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

